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Need Personal Defense .38 SPL Recommendations

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by ross2004, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. ross2004

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    I'm looking for cartridge recommendations for a 4" S&W Model 10. Most of what I've been able to find on the subject has involved snub-nose revolvers. It seems like most people are suggesting the "FBI load", a 158 gr. +p LSWCHP, in the longer length barrels. Is this the general consensus?
     
  2. 9mmParabellum

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    158gr to heavy for 38 for personal protection in shooting not very good results.

    Corbon DPX, Speer Gold Dot, if you want it in 50 round boxes www.Doubletapammo.com

    Now I hope you are learning how to shoot, or already know how?

    Ammo is just one thing you must hit your intented target with every round you fire to neutralize the threat and reduce your liability.

    Not hitting the target does not solve your problem and puts innocent people at risk.

    Be Safe
     


  3. ross2004

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    Not my gun. It's a gun I bought for my dad to give to him this Christmas.

    I am always learning how to shoot.
     
  4. Zombie Steve

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    When you're basically making a choice of light and not really fast, or heavy and not really fast, I'll lean towards heavy. I like the FBI load. That said, there are much better bullet designs out there now. Again, I'd stick with 158's. Like peas & carrots.
     
  5. fredj338

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    It depends on the bullet. The 158grLSWCHP+P has had a great rep for decades. It works in a snub & even better in a 4" where it will reach over 900fps. That is right where a soft lead HP expands extremely well & being heavy enough & fast enough to drive that 60cal+ bullet through it's target. The light & fast stuff works, but you generally sarcrifice penetration. The other benefit of 158gr+P ammo, it's easily/cheaply reproduced for practice. Are other +P loads "better". maybe, but the "FBI" load has a proven track record.:dunno:
     
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  6. The 158 gr SWCLHP +P is a very good choice........You can also search "Defensive Ammo Comparison" and you get tons of info.....
     
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  8. ross2004

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    I would like to get the Buffalo Bore 158 gr. +p but I think it might be too much for my dad to handle well. Has anyone ever shot it?
     
  9. cowboywannabe

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    WHAT?!:rofl:
     
  10. JohnnyReb

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    Be easy cowboy, he is obviously new. :wavey:
     
  11. fredj338

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    It's a good load, pricey, I doubt offers up much more recoil in a 4" gun. I would stick w/ the Win or Rem 158gr+P load, just based on cost. I don't think the add'l 50fps+ really matters that much.
     
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  12. DustyJacket

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    You can get FBI loads at Brass Pro these days. Not pricey at all.

    My revolver is loaded with FBI loads and gold dots in a speed loader.
     
  13. ross2004

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    Looks like the Rem. FBI load is a pretty fair deal, ~$30 for 50.
     
  14. 9mmParabellum

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    please explain what is so funny! There are lots of people who cannot shoot. I don't want the bad guys learning how to shoot but lots of law abiding citizens have guns but can not control them in hostile situations and get good hits on target.

    Oh well glad you could have a laugh on me.
     
  15. cowboywannabe

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    easy Francis, the laugh was to your 158gr. is too heavy for .38spl defense...but thats o.k., im o.k. with your choice of lesser rounds.
     
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  16. Zombie Steve

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    Now I think I get it... you're talking about shootability, we were all talking about terminal performance.

    Still, I haven't met anybody that had too much trouble with .38 special at all, regardless of bullet weight. :dunno:
     
  17. NonPCnraRN

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    I have a round butt Mod 19 with a 4" barrel. I was thinking of loading some Penn 230 gr Thunderheads to about 900 fps for a trail gun. The Mod 10 is the same frame size and could handle the load. The bullets are designed for bowling pin matches where momentum is needed to knock those pins down. The target alloy is about 12 BHN. For those who believe in big and slow with a large meplat these bullets should work well. http://www.pennbullets.com/38/38-caliber.html
     
  18. ross2004

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    :wow:

    That would be a pretty stout .38 SPL load. :50cal:
     
  19. NonPCnraRN

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    Yeah, but not as bad as a 158 gr 357 mag. The bullet is designed with 2 crimp grooves for either 38 spl or 357 brass so the M10 being a K frame should handle this round. 900 fps is the max the bullet can be pushed being target alloy. If you look at the pic of bullet from the link you'll see that a cylinder full viewed by a BG would get his attention. In CA there are more dangers along the trail from 2 legged varmints vs 4 legged varmints, but the occassional cougar or black bear is a possibility.