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need load data: 9mm, 115 grn montana gold FMJ, Titegroup

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by eb1ch, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. eb1ch

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    so I finally have my dillon close to set up. I realized though, I have no load data.

    9mm, shooting mostly glock.

    bullet: 115 montana gold FMJ
    powder: Titegroup

    for some reason hodgdon does not list a 115gr FMJ load with titegroup on their website. see for yourself http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

    I have a hornady manual that does not list titegroup.

    however, in my speer reloading manual, it has a 115 grain TMJ RN.

    for that is says the COAL is 1.135

    min power charge is 4.1 grains, max is 4.5

    does that sound close?
     
  2. fredj338

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    You aren't going to find MG specific data. If you must use TG, use starting data & load long, work up very slowly in 0.1gr increments. Triple check you powder charges. You can double a charge of TG even in the 9mm.:whistling: IMO, put the TG on your shelf, go buy 1# WSF or Universal & load your first 1500rds w/ that to learn your new hobby. TG, just too many problems for a newb.
     

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  3. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    What are you planing on doing with those bullets?
    • Plink
    • IDPA
    • ISPC major
    • Bullseye
    You should chose your powder and load by cartridge intended use.
     
  4. Hoser

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    Thats what I have found when using Titegroup. 4.5 for the 115s, 4.0 for the 124s and 3.5 for the 147s.

    I load mine a little longer than most as mine are being shot out of a 1911. I back it off 0.2 for Glocks and M&Ps.
     
  5. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    A 1911 huh? I wonder what it would be like to put some 9's downrange with a 1911? :whistling:

    BHP's don't count.


    Jack
     
  6. Njanear

    Njanear Nagant-ophile

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    My buddy is waiting for his new Kimber 1911 in 9mm to get in. If I get a chance to shoot it, I'll let you know. :wavey:
     
  7. Ceapea

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    I load 4.3gr Titegroup with both 115gr and 124gr bullets. All to 1.125".
    My G34 loves this load. And I just discovered an even better load for the G34,
    5.2gr Unique, 124gr FMJ at 1.150".
     
  8. D. Manley

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    Excellent load. 4.3 grains @ 1.14 is very nice with FMJ and 4.2 does equally well with plated.
     
  9. eb1ch

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    thank you for your concern. this is almost the exact response I got over at sigforum regarding TG. I do not remember who recommended it to me, as I bought it months ago. but several people did on an internet board like this one. I do have a whole heck of a lot of it, so thats what I'll be using for the foreseeable future.

    anyhow, it was a big day for me as I reloaded and shot my first rounds ever. love my dillon 550.

    again, I will heed your warnings and will be extra vigilant at physically observing the powder charge with every round I load. I have intentionally double charged many a case to see what it looks like and it is indeed easy to spot.

    thanks again.

    range report:

    fingers and eyes: all still there. guns (two glocks) functioned perfectly.

    I ended up going with about 4.1 grains of titegroup with an OAL of 1.138.
     
  10. eb1ch

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    plink/train/IDPA/IPSC production.
     
  11. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    You should be making power factor with that. But you might want to run it over a crono. 4.1 over a 125 makes power factor to spare in my G17.
     
  12. eb1ch

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    sadly I don't have access to a chrono. maybe I'll dial it down a smidge, as it seemed rather snappy, and easily cycled the gun. perhaps 3.9 or 4.0.
     
  13. Hoser

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    115s will always be snappy. Thats why I shoot 124s and 130s. Not as snappy/harsh as 115s, but not as expensive as 147s.

     
  14. billd203

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    Just picked up some titegroup. Loading for my glock 26. 115 fmj, 4.4 grains, 1.16 oal.
    I made 10 and now I need to see how they shoot.

    Not sure if I should lower my grains or keep it at 4.4,yet.
     
  15. eb1ch

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    that should be fine. I don't think 4.4 quite makes it up to even WWB. its close, though.
     
  16. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

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    115 are always seem snappy in order to get enough emergency to cycle the gun. Tightgroup and 115 gr 9mm are the tighwad special! Spend another two or three bucks a K (one third of a penny a round) and get rid of those snappy 115. I understand the CRB thing but why not save some money and make your gun a pleasure to shoot?
     
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  17. fredj338

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    Since you are going to splurge, you might as well spend 1/5c per round more & get a more suitable powder too.:supergrin:
     
  18. Gperfection

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    I like TG myself. I've been using it for years now. The one thing I really like about it, is it not positionaly sensitive and the shot to shot consistency is exceptional. I think you should use 4.4 grs with the 115fmj and you will be on par with a factory 115 load. Sure it's a bit snappy, but no more so than factory. If you double charge at 4.4grs., you pretty much spilling over, I think you would notice. Just don't double charge! That's just my 2 cents.
     
  19. Bultx1215

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    I like 4.1g of TG loaded to 1.14 myself. Functions well in both my 9mm's. 4.3g works as well in both 115 and 124g's. I like the WST better in 9mm, but will burn my half pound of TG up before I load any more WST's.