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My new ultra-rare Delta AR Top Gun - Wow! :):)

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by bac1023, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    I started this thread a couple months back and now have this ultra rare and exotic pistol in my hands!

    Here is some more info here:

    These guns were made in very small quantities by two Italian engineers in Lucca, Italy in the mid to late 1990's. Its design is loosely patterned after the CZ 52. The Delta won European pistol of the year for 1998 in Nuremberg, Germany. I'd say that's quite impressive considering the amazing pistols being produced in Europe at that time. That was before everything turned into plastic. I don't have much else to say about its history, because there isn't a whole lot of info on these pistols. I will say that some have a side ejection port and some don't. That was probably an addition or subtraction at some point during its short production life. I'm not sure how many were built, but mine is serial number 0069 and chambered in 45ACP. I believe they were chambered in 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP. I'm actually certain of the 9mm and 45ACP, but not the 40S&W.

    The gun itself is very high quality the fit and finish is superb. Calling it "exotic" is an understatement, to say the least. The frame is made of what appears to be a really high quality aluminum alloy and the slide is carbon steel with a two tone nickel finish (matte and bright). As you can see, this pistol is completely ambidextrous. When I say ambidextrous, I mean it. The controls are totally identical, not just stuck on there as an afterthought for lefties. In fact, with no side ejection port, it looks completely identical on both sides. I honestly don't think I own or have even seen another pistol with that characteristic. Even the roll marks are identical on both sides. The only difference being the small print.

    The trigger is amazingly precise, light, and crisp and its adjustable every which way but loose. I'm talking a total of FOUR different adjustments. :wow: As you can see, there are two screws under the frame in front of the trigger, a third screw just behind those two on the trigger mechcanism, and a fourth on the side of the trigger itself. While I'll probably never touch any of them, you have to admit its damn cool. :cool:

    The grips are very finely checkered and show great wood grain, though I'm not sure exactly what sort of wood was used. The sights are the adjustable target type and give a great sight picture. The front strap and top of the slide are nicely serrated. The back of the slide has extremely fine checkering. Being a 1911 guy, I know fine checkering. This looks to be an incredible 50lpi. The only other pistols I own with any checkering on the back of the slide are some of my high end 1911s and those are generally 40lpi. This is about 10 lines per inch finer. For the non-1911 guys, I'll tell you that the purpose of rear slide checkering is to keep the sun from reflecting off the surface and back into your eyes.

    Just looking at the pistol and you know its Italian. The big rounded trigger guard is a bit funky, but the pistol is very graceful in appearance and smooth in function. The finish is very nice, the controls are great, and the ergonomics feel incredibly comfortable in hand. Despite being quite large, the Delta weighs just 34.4oz. This gun was designed from the ground up for competition, not just target shooting.

    Of course, I would have preferred 9mm. However, these guns are so extremely rare, that I may never have had another opportunity to buy one in this lifetime. Its the only one I ever saw for sale. While its not confirmed, I highly doubt this gun was ever fired. The mags certainly don't look like they were ever loaded. There is not a single handling mark on the gun or the grips. Its pretty much brand new.

    As many know, I love rare/high end European pistols and the Delta is the epitome of that. I find it beautiful, sexy, and extremely high quality. I also love its very unique look and personality. Its a masterpiece of creativity and precision machining and hand fitting.

    The Delta Top Gun came with two mags and a very nice lockable (combination) case. The owners manual has a total of two English words in it and they are "top" and "gun". The rest is in Italian, but has good pictures. ;)

    At any rate, what do you think of my latest? As always, your comments and questions are welcome. I usually ask if anybody owns one or has experience with one, so I will now as well. Anyone?

    As you can tell, I'm really stoked about this one. Plese forgive the excitement. I've always been a 1911 junky, but I'm also becoming a real high end European pistol fanatic. When I put it in my gun room, it will go on my highest end shelf, along with some others in its class.

    Enjoy the pics. I've never been great at photographing shiny handguns, but they aren't too bad. :embarassed:


    Last edited: Dec 11, 2014
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  2. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004





    As requested, I have added a pic of the checkering on the rear of the slide.

    Last edited: Jan 20, 2013
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  3. The_Gun_Guru

    The_Gun_Guru Build the Wall

    Another gorgeous find for sure!:wow:

    Interesting trigger guard.:dunno:

    Congrats as always.

  4. wingryder


    Oct 9, 2012
    28.420, -81.171
    Holy Crap! :wow:

    That's purdy! I'd be afraid to take that baby out and shoot it!

    Thanks for sharing that and Congrats!
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2013
  5. Steel Head

    Steel Head Tactical Cat

    Jan 1, 2010
    A cat box in WA
    Never heard of them either:dunno:

    That gun actually is a real LOOKER:wow:!!!!

    Kinda like Sig and S&W had a baby.

    Nice find!

    I look forward to looking at your non-1911 guns.
  6. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    No doubt ;)

    It adds to the pistol's character though. :cool:
  7. steve1911


    Jul 12, 2004
    Very nice.

    Congrats! bac

  8. method


    Mar 27, 2002
    Cleveland, OH
    Can definitely see the CZ-52 in the take down latch.

    If you don't mind saying, how much?
  9. You do find the most interesting things, don't you?

    Congratulations Bac. Very nice.
  10. Bruce M

    Bruce M

    Jan 3, 2010
    S FL
    Another great, interesting find, Sir. The lines and curves do look Italian; sort of Ferrari-like.
  11. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004

    Too much

    The original asking price was $4800, but I got them down a good amount.

    Its one of those things in which I had no reference point. They sold between 2 and $3000 15-20 years ago. However, I haven't seen one for sale to gage it. The collector I bought it from paid $4000 for it and I'm not sure how long ago that was.
  12. TexasVine


    Feb 9, 2010
    Central Texas
    Wow! What a nice piece. I so enjoy looking and reading your postings. I have actually learned a great deal about firearms via your pics and writings.
  13. gruntmedik

    gruntmedik Honk Honk CLM

    Jan 2, 2005
    Taylorsville, KY
    Very cool! Any pics of the checkering on the rear sight?
  14. When I saw that grip, "baby got back" sound comes up in my head.

    Anyway, It's nice to see CZ 52 in a modern design.
  15. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004

    It's actually the rear of the slide that's checkered, not the sight. I'll take a pic.
  16. jakebrake

    jakebrake cracker

    Jan 11, 2011
    too close to philly
    ok.... i gotta ask

    1) where the hell do you find these things?

    2) won't adopt me?
  17. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004

    Here you go, you can see how fine the checkering is in this pic. :cool:

    I believe its 50lpi.

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  18. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    No doubt, Bruce :cool:

    Just the way the parts go together, such as how the thumb safeties blend with the beavertail.

    Its unmistakably an Italian gun.
  19. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

    Nov 24, 2005
    Sweet Georgia Brown,...........that sure is pretty.

    Thanks for sharing! I think I may have to take a trip to the Bac Museum next year!:faint:
  20. A-Train

    A-Train Member

    Sep 7, 2003
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Wow!!! What a work of art. Very nice BAC congrats.