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My hypocrisy knows no bound - Lightweight Commander XSE

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by fnfalman, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    I was so impressed with the Combat Commander's handling and balance that I figured a Lightweight Commander would even be better.

    Alas, after perusing all the shops and pawn shops around Boise, I didn't find a regular Lightweight Commander. Only one joint has the XSE in stainless steel. I was dawdling because of the front slide serration, full length guide rod and ambidextrous safety. I don't know when I'd be able to get a Lightweight Commander but at the same time I don't want all the geegaws. The shop owner cut me a deal that I couldn't refuse, so here I am with a gun that I only so-so want. Oh well, life is tough and then you die.

    I may leave the ambi safety as is or I may switch to a left-side-only lever. However, the full length guide rod must go.

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    Nice, I don't bother changing out the FLGR in my Colt's, they come out easily without tools.
     
  7. fnfalman

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    That they do, but damn, it's rough on your thumb.
     
  8. fnfalman

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    Thanks for the well wishes, everybody. I'd only wish that it were a regular Lightweight Commander but hey, it's better than a sharp poke in the eye. Besides, I have issues with impulse controls, I can't wait for a regular Lightweight Commander to work through the used gun circle.
     
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    I'm not a fan of the Duckbill grip safety, but overall it's a great looking gun.
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    Congrats on a beautiful pistol! I still want a commander, but there are a couple of others I'd like to pick up first.
     
  12. fnfalman

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    I'm in the middle of moving, so time is a wee bit pressed. I ran to the local indoors range and blasted 100-rounds through it to check for functionality more than anything. Found some good and found some not so great. The ammo were a box of Blazer Aluminum and a box of PMC, both 230-gr ball ammo.

    First of all, I tried the GI plug. For some reasons that setup didn't allow the slide to go all the way back. I need to check the GI plug from my other Commander to see if there's a difference in length or what. The slide doesn't go back far enough to lock it in place with the slide lock lever, about 1/8" short or so by my eyeball calibration. I disassembled the gun, looked it over real quick, couldn't see what's wrong. Reassembled and same issue. So I slapped the one-piece full length guide rod back in and shot the mutha.

    The shots all went low. Maybe 2" at 7-yds, 3" at 10-yds and 4'-5" at 15-yds. It's back to the gun shop now and the gunsmith will see if he can cut the front sight down a bit. That was quite disappointing. On the other hand, the damn gun shot like the devil. Groups were tight and controllability was great. I loved my 9mm Commander's handling characteristics, but I wasn't sure how a lightweight Commander in .45ACP would do. Obviously it ain't gonna hurt me, but I was wondering how less controllable it might be. Control wasn't an issue at all. I felt a bit more snap but not enough to bother me and the gun was on target during rapid fire a lot more than the Gold Cup that I was shooting side-by-side.

    First group was tight but low as heck. Second group was done at 10-yds and it was also low. I thought that maybe the gun was sighted in at the factory and calibrated for the white dots instead of top of the sights, so I started experimenting with aiming via white dots only. If anything, it made the groups spreaded out all over the joint. However, the bulk of the groups were still impacting low. I hunkered down and shot at 15-yds. I knew that my sight picture was off but the group was decent...and low. So now the pistol is with the smithy to see if he can shave the front sight down a bit.

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  13. fnfalman

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    No point in shooting at bullseye at this stage, so I switched over to silhouette target to see about handling. The gun may shoot low to point of aim, but if push were to come to shove, it'd still put rounds on target.

    Tried some Mozambique drills, some rapid fire flash sight picture drills, some quick aim drills. I finished it off by 1-second/shot at 7yds - still shot low.

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  14. Indeed they do. This along with the fact that you can't charge a Commander by pressing the front of the slide against something, like you can with a Government Model I decided to leave it be on my XSE build.



    Indeed it is! :supergrin:



    Congrats on the Colt, sir! My XSE commander has been a superb pistola and I'm sure yours wil be as well. :cool:
     
  15. fnfalman

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    So, nobody switches over to the GI recoil spring setup? What's so special about this
    XSE Commander that it can't be done?

    I'm going to see if I can find a left-side-only safety lever and switch it out for the ambi safety. For some reasons the ambi safety bugs the hell out of me.
     
  16. eltee

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    Nice Commander you have. I bought the same model LW Commander xse used. Ordered Colt's curved mainspring housing and single sided thumb safety from Midway, and drop in grip safety from Wilson's. Installed m/s housing, grip safety and a short trigger that I already had. The grip safety didn't line up right with the frame so put duckbill back in and filed off some excess. I'm going to have a gunsmith fit the thumb safety. I really like the gun. Pics later.