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mossberg 500 or remington 870 for HD

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by rome2240sw, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. rome2240sw

    rome2240sw GLOCKIN4LIFE

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    as the title says im looking to purchase a new pump action shotgun for home defense. I was wondering which would be better, the pistol grip mossberg 500 or the Remington 870? they both feel great in my hands but i want to know which requires less maintenance and will last the longest..
     
  2. TECH51

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    Can't go wrong with ether one of them. 50% will say Remington and 50% will be for the Mossberg.
     


  3. JBnTX

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    +1. Either one is perfect for HD.

    I'll get flamed for this by the tacticool crowd, but here goes:

    Forget the pistol grip. Nothing is more useless on a 12ga shotgun than a
    pistol grip.

    (By pistol grip, I mean a pistol grip by itself, not one used with a shoulder
    stock. A pistol grip/shoulder stock combination is the best of both worlds.)

    You stand a much better chance of hitting the target if you aim.
     
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  4. mixflip

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    Ooh this subject again! I always love this one. I was wondering when it was going to pop up? It has been a while.

    Simple answer. Both are perfect for HD. It boil down to personal preference. Lefties love the ambi safety on the Mossberg 500 and cops love the 870 for its commonality between what they use at work with what they use at home.




    I personally like...

    The Mossbergs shell carrier setup, how it tucks up and away from bitting my thumb like my Remington used to do when loading.

    The Mossbergs dual extractors!!!

    The Remingtons slide release button (where its positioned). I have accidentally hit the slide release a few times, causing a FTF on my Mossberg when shooting it from non-traditional positions. The Remingtons button is well out of the way in front of the trigger guard.

    The Remingtons fit & finnish is more refined.

    The Mossberg has a light weight aluminum receiver and the Remington has a rugged old school steel receiver. (one is not better than the other for HD)

    That being said...my Benelli SuperNova Tactical is better than both my Mossberg & Remington (for me personally). The only down side is that Benelli's are expensive.




    Figure out what features you like and go from there. You may have to go to the gun store or a borrow a friends shotgun or go to a range and rent some shotguns to do a little gun fondling lol?
     
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  5. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

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    Even though it does not work well for everyone, I have discovered I am still a pretty darn good shot with my pistol-grip equipped 590 at typical HD distances. Anywhere from contact to about 15 yards I can hit COM from the hip every time, using either buckshot or slug, and the reduced overall length makes it a LOT easier for me to navigate the narrow doorways in my apartment.
     
  6. wonderwolf

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    single shot NEF 12ga? just to be different

    I got both the 500 and 870, they are on the same level imho
     
  7. bullw

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    Six of one, half a dozen of ther other. Find the best deal and go with it. Can't go wrong with a 500 or 870...
     
  8. Dozerdog

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    Get both and put each in a strategic location in the house. Full magazine, empty chamber. I have both, but the Mossberg is for hunting and the 870 is set up tactical.
     
  9. CTfam

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    It comes down to controls locations. Pick the one that is more comfortable for you. I like the Mossbergs.
     
  10. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

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    I am not a fan of the cross-bolt Remington safety, I prefer the top-mounted of the Mossberg. However, now that I use a pistol grip on my 590, it is near impossible to reach short of completely moving my right hand.
     
  11. annieO09

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    Mossberg 500 100%
     
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  12. aippi

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    Over ten million gun buyers say Remington 870. Check out model 25077. It comes with an 18.5" bead sight barrel, Remington LE tube extension for a 6+1 capacity, Speedfeed LE forend and Remington Synthetic read stock. Best value on the market. Don't fall for the other tacti-fool models as that mess is not needed on a fighting shotgun.
     
  13. MrMurphy

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    Apparently, using the search function has not occured to you, as this subject in the last six to seven years has been discussed approximately 9,304.5 times on this gunboard alone.
     
  14. annieO09

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    But it is fun to :deadhorse: at times. Sometimes they do get up...:whistling:


    :tongueout:
     
  15. aippi

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    I does not matter how many times the question has been asked as there are new members who can add their perspective and comments on the subject. Members who have these models have now had them longer and can give input into how well they hold up as the weapons have more rounds through them. Others may have now found that they did like the model they had and switched over and be able to give the reasons why. So if a guy wants to ask something he should, no matter how many times it has been asked.
     
  16. MrMurphy

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    Apparently, the idea of resurrecting an older thread that already has at least a dozen of the general questions answered requires too much mental work for some people.
     
  17. Bill Lumberg

    Bill Lumberg BTF Inventor

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    No notable difference, except where the safety is located. Whichever feels better to you will work fine, for damn near forever.

     
  18. DHart

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    I agree with JD. To simply tell new folks to do a search turns a lively forum into a dead quiet LIBRARY. None of us wants that. And as JD mentioned, there's always a new twist or turn or comment from someone new which can be useful. Yes, this is the old Ford vs. Chevy debate recycled time and time again... but it's still an important conversation to keep going. We don't need a silent library here.

    ==================================

    That said... the controls are the biggest difference, but you can become accustomed to working with either. And they are both equally "reliable" if you do YOUR part well. I have been a Mossberg fan for many years for these reasons:

    1) Tang mounted thumb safety - my favorite by a long shot - easy to see and can be actuated without any movement of your firing hand or trigger finger.

    2) The shell carrier resides in the up position allowing the clearest, easiest access to topping off the mag tube possible. BIG difference vs. 870.

    3) The slide action release is positioned for instant and easy operation without requiring you to move the shooting hand whatsoever. I LIKE!

    4) Dual extractors. If you should develop an extractor problem on an 870, you've got nothing to extract with. On a 500, TWO extractors. I LIKE!

    5) Owner replaceable ejector on the 500. With an 870 you will probably need a gunsmith and possibly a refinish to replace the ejector.

    6) All the internal parts in the 500 receiver come out quickly and easily (without tools!) for cleaning and user replacement if necessary. I LIKE!

    The Mossberg 500 is an awesome shotgun, very reasonably priced, and is very popular as well.

    All that said, I like the 870 and the Winchester 1300 also. I don't really have a favorite as I have all three and find that each of them possess features or qualities that neither of the other two possess. While the Mossberg has some major advantages as I listed above, I would feel equally well protected with an 870 or a 1300. In fact, I rely on all three on a daily/nightly basis!

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  19. Aceman

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    again - there just is no wrong answer to this question. Bottom line is both are rock solid long term well established performers. Can't make a bad decision.

    You'll learn to use either well very quickly. Only if you shoot both regulalrly/often will you really be able to make a well informed choice based on your preferences.

    I like Mossberg, because it's what I have. I have it because of the price at the time of purchase.

    I will agree also - NO pistol grip only guns. Not saying it can't be done...just saying in general sholder braced aimed fire is generally superior approach.

    But you can deck either gun out with any and every accessory you have ever seen on any shotgun. Not that an Express or a Maverick 88 don't both work perfectly out of the box.
     
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  20. sharpblade

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    rome2240sw, I think you have asked a very valid question. You will have to overlook the guys that are only intent on bashing one's post.