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More US Companies Imposing Consequences on Unhealthy Employees...

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by ChiTownPicaro, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. ChiTownPicaro

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/25/companies-penalize-employees-health_n_2950392.html

    I hope more companies take these sorts of steps. As a stock holder it will be good for the country. I would rather they fired out of shape folks to help raise stock values and save on salaries.

    But either way, perhaps they will start requiring physicals prior to hiring. Imagine if they start telling smokers that they are ineligible to be hired as they tested positive for tobacco and they told fatties that they are too heavy and must lose weight before they can be hired. Hopefully this will help the nation with its obesity epidemic.

    What do you all think?
     
  2. sputnik767

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    So basically, get healthy or pay more. About time.
     

  3. JVMHGF

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    The article headline says that the "U.S. companies" are doing this but it's the leverage of the Affordable Care Act that's really responsible. If they don't do wellness surveying or testing, they'll get fined by the government. If the employee gets dropped by the health insurance, the employee will have to pay a fine -- for not having health insurance. Government gets paid no matter what.
     
  4. M2 Carbine

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    If they are going to insist in getting into your private life then go all the way.
    Fire an employee that uses a cell phone while driving.

    Definitely fire dopers.

    Fire employees that don't eat enough fresh fruit.

    Fire employees that drive too old a (unsafe) car.

    Fire an employee that doesn't get enough sleep.

    Of course fire everyone when they reach the age of 50.

    Fire any woman with big boobs and a nice butt. She is a distraction that may get someone hurt while looking at her.


    No, I'm really tired of people, government, work, whatever getting into peoples private lives.

    As a pilot it was my responsibility to maintain decent enough health to fly but I think such as that is the limit.
     
  5. Folsom_Prison

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    I agree with M2 ^^^^

    If your gonna do it, why not go all out?

    Hey your a gun owner, we can have you work here ect ect. It cracks me up on here reading things such as the OP posted. Take the smoking bit for example, he would have no problem trying to tramp on someone's freedom such as that.

    I'm sure if someone wanted to tramp on his 2ND A freedom...... Awww hell nah! Hypocritics!
     
  6. Atlas

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    Just say 'no'.
    Work for a different employer.
     
  7. sputnik767

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    Just to play devil's advocate:

    If you work for a private company, do they not have a say in various aspects of their employees' lifestyle? For example, if you want to come to my house and I ask you to leave your gun at home, I would expect you to comply.

    What about dopers? Something tells me that delivery companies probably don't want their employees chasing a rainbow-farting dragon down the middle of a crowded sidewalk in the company vehicle.

    What about obese people? Insuring them costs the company and the rest of the employees more money. Barring the rare case of an actual medical reason, isn't it appropriate to have them shoulder some of the burden for their healthcare? Why should I have to pay more for my healthcare coverage when I hardly ever use it? The same applies to smokers.

    My point is, nobody is dictating to any private company how they should manage their employees. If a business wants to promote wellness (and their bottom line), it is their choice on how they do it. And it is your choice to work there or work elsewhere.

    Want to set your own rules, start your own business and manage your employees as you see fit.
     
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    When your personal life starts to affect the companies bottom line, I'd say they have a understandable reason to make regulations.
     
  9. WmHBonney

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    What's next? Will a big city mayor tell you that you cannot order a large soda? Oh, wait, someone already did that.
     
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    ChiTownPicaro is clearly a Lib troll who has infiltrated GT and who supports Obama. Don't be a sucker & take the bait. :wavey:

    He's trolling here as in all of his threads and I'd bet he doesn't even own a gun. Avoid him. :upeyes:
     
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    Agreed. If it's a condition of employment, it is voluntary to remain employed.
     
  12. CourtCop

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    The current US obesity rate is 35.7%. Do you really want more than 1/3 of the country unemployed and sucking on the the government tit?

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    So it's all about the bottom line, eh?

    My employer has wellness testing where they collect and record basic health information. They also have health fairs and mandatory driving training for all employees regardless of whether you drive a company vehicle or not.

    But my employer will not do anything about coworkers that surf FB, youtube and chat all day on company owned computers!
     
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    this is what the insurance company written obama health care plan is all about.
     
  15. Revvv

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    I'm pretty sure some of, if not all of, what is being requested is an invasion of my privacy. My cholesterol, BP, bmi, etc is my business. My wife can't even get this info from my doctor unless I approve.

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    It's not an invasion of your privacy if you agree to the terms. If you don't, look elsewhere for a job. That's what it boils down to. I don't necessarily like it either but that's the way of the future. The fact is we are going broke, as a country, and poor health choices is one of the main factors.

    Start drug testing welfare recipients too.
     
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  18. Revvv

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    Our health isn't the source of the Country's financial distress.

    It saddens me to see people willing to just roll over and take what they are given, even if what they are given is a negative.

    Are there jobs that should have a health code? Absolutely. Law Enforcement is a prime example. There are physical requirements the job entails daily. Same as our military, physical fitness matters for survival and the protection of others on the team.

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  19. SCHADENFREUDE

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    I see the disability roles swelling soon. My question is this. Are those fat people doing their job? Do you want to send them home to sit on their couch and collect a check that we all pay for? Or do you want them to get up and go to work and help pay for all the able body people sitting at home already?

    I think both sides of the political spectrum need to get out of people's life's. If any person uses more health care than some guy in an office says is the usual than they should pay more for it. That would be if you are fat, cancerous, kidney disease, etc. If you are fat and use no insurance you are costing no one anything. If your fatness starts to eat away at you then you have to pay for it. That would be personal accountability.
     
  20. Atlas

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    No I want them to get up and go to work.... for you, not for me though. :cool: