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More SERPA Fail.

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Bushflyr, Nov 13, 2011.

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  1. Bushflyr

    Bushflyr ʇno uıƃuɐɥ ʇsnɾ Millennium Member

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  2. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    I know alot of people like them, but I really think its because they are the only holster you can get for most popular guns at academy, dicks, or basspro.

    IMO they are garbage. I'll stick to leather with a thumb break.
     
  3. cowboy1964

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    I had to try one and while it's ok for the range I don't consider it for serious use. It doesn't conceal well and it's not safe enough for open carry.

    I much prefer an inside (thumb) type release like on the Safariland.
     
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  4. i have one and have never had problems with it but i also see the shortfalls in it and will be replacing it soon. i got one after being issued one in the army.
     
  5. Bingo. almost every store that sells ammo sells these holsters.
     
  6. BailRecoveryAgent

    BailRecoveryAgent Rude Member

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    I had one when I first started doing recovery work and needed a level 2 holster, IMHO, they are made to about the same quality as Uncle Mikes or Fobus. Junk.

    Any holster with the release button on the outside of the holster isn't much of a retention holster. The paddle is by far the flimsiest attachment I've seen, and the belt attachment sticks it out into the next zip code making concealment a no go.
     
  7. sns3guppy

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    I saw quite a few of those in use in Iraq. I was always amazed that anyone would trust them, especially in that environment.
     
  8. Jason D

    Jason D INFRINGED Silver Member Millennium Member

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    Just what does one expect with a 30 dollar holster?
     
  9. Goldendog Redux

    Goldendog Redux Shut your mouth

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    There are a number of good plastic holsters although everyone is making some microwave oven formed plastic POS now. The blackhawks are for people who don't know any better-and there are a gazillion of those people
     
  10. FatPants

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    I expect a lot from my $30 safariland holster much nicer than a SERPA.
     
  11. Bushflyr

    Bushflyr ʇno uıƃuɐɥ ʇsnɾ Millennium Member

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    Well, considering that I can get one of these for ~$20 I expect something that works, is safe, and won't fall apart if I look at it cross eyed.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. sns3guppy

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    For a concealment polymer holster, the Galco Matrix series aren't bad. I've no doubt that they could probably be broken apart with enough brute force, but they're not weak like a Fobus or the Serpa. The material is a lot more elastic, too, and not nearly as brittle. They're not retention holsters, and not meant to resist a grab, but under clothing, or while out hiking, or any number of uses when preventing a handgun takeaway isn't an issue, they're decent holsters, especially for the price.
     
  13. fla2760

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    I use the Galco Matrix for my G22 or G27 when I am at home. When out a leather IWB rig works best for me.
     
  14. fuzzy03cls

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    It works well for OC at the range. I have 2. 1 1911, 1 Beretta M9. I have used the M9 for a IDPA shoot once & it worked fine.
    But I can see how it would fail. No way I'd carry it in real life.
     
  15. hamster

    hamster NRA Life Member

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    I tried one and just wasn't happy with how far off the body it pushed the weapon. Fine for range use or around the house, but not for concealment.
     
  16. cloudbuster

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    What do you all think of the Bianchi Carrylok? Completely different approach. Well-made leather holsters. Not cheap junk.

    I believe it's only classified as level 1 retention, though. I think of it as an alternative to a holster that relies on friction alone, not as an alternative to a thumb break holster.
     
  17. Sam Spade

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    Excellent holster. I've worn one for several years, and been in fights on the street and in the mat room with it. It held securely, and the release doesn't depend on the trigger finger.
     
  18. ChrisFB

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    I've seen a number of posts from exactly that theater where a Serpa failure nearly cost someone his life. First person stories as well as someone replicating the issue dependably. That's more than enough for me.

    I do own a Fobus (+ MTAC etc..) so I'm not a holster snob and I do like and use the Fobus on occasion. I will never own a Serpa due to potential mechanism failure locking the pistol in the holster - no way in hell.
     
  19. rbhale32

    rbhale32 NOHLO

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    I'm going to have to call BS. That holster broke in THREE places from ONE "quick" tug? Just doesn't make sense to me. I'd like to see a pic of the other side and the inside of that holster, to see where the tool marks are that actually caused that.

    I defend these holsters because I carry one on duty and have done so for the past three years without one failure. I've had two Safariland holsters crap out on me in two years, and I'm not bashing Safariland There is no reason to go bashing a holster, any holster, because of a few failures. It's totally a numbers game. If you sell a crap load of holsters, something is going to happen to a few of them, NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR BAD THEY MIGHT BE.

    That being said, if you do own one, freaking train with it so you won't be "surprised" that you can't just take it out of the holster like you can with your Fobus (which is also prone to "easy breakage" apparently). It's a RETENTION holster, just like the many many many other retention holsters out there. You have to practice with it to learn it. How many people out there that can take a level three snap holster ("gun vault") and just take it out? Same way with the Serpa. If you don't, then its your fault when you pop off a round into your leg (it would be your fault anyway, but i'm trying to make a point).

    Sorry, second rant I've had this week about this topic.
     
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