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Montana Gold 147 gr CMJ

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by F106 Fan, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. F106 Fan

    F106 Fan

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    I loaded a few of these 9mm bullets with 3.2 gr Tite Group and they shot fine. But maybe the powder is a little fast and perhaps alternatives might be safer.



    I am looking to reach 132 PF or about 900 fps so I am thinking about either
    1. 4.0 gr Unique
    2. 4.0 gr WSF
    I am expecting that the load will come out a little slow because I am testing with a 4" gun.

    I would imagine that the WSF will meter a little better than the Unique on my Dillon 550B with extra-small charge bar.

    OAL 1.150"
    Federal 100 primers

    Any thoughts?

    Richard
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2011
  2. I load lead 147 gr. MO Bullet's TC.
    Unique: 3.5 Gr.
    WSF: 3.7 Gr
    OAL: 1.110"

    Both very comfortable to shoot and hit point of aim.
     


  3. WiskyT

    WiskyT Malcontent

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    4.3 Bullseye or 4.5 Unique will do it easily so a bit less would get the job done. Both of the loads I posted are max in some manuals, and over max in others, so to me, they are "max" and should be worked up to.
     
  4. Japle

    Japle John, Viera, Fl

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    I load the Berry's 147 RN over 3.3 gr of TiteGroup. I get 877 fps / SD of 12.5 in my XDm 3.8 and 897 fps / SD of 8.5 in my 4" barrel CZ75. It's a very accurate load and the pressure seems low. I could easily go to 3.4 or 3.5 gr if I wanted more velocity. I don't.

    Unless you're looking for a high-pressure load for hunting or combat, I think TiteGroup is the best powder I've seen for 9mm.
     
  5. cowboy1964

    cowboy1964

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    Typo?
     
  6. F106 Fan

    F106 Fan

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    Yup! I fixed the original post.

    OAL 1.150"

    Richard
     
  7. Speedrock

    Speedrock "To The Point"

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    Have used a "Ton" of TG with Mo' Gold 124 JHP's & has proved to be v. tractable and superbly accurate from a 34 with OEM, Jarvis or KKM bbl's.

    As already posted TG is a safe powder & a V. V. popular one for 9mm with pressure being "less" compared to other fast powders.

    Also use a lot of WSF with same bullet, mostly for the Winter indoor matches here, due to its lower flash signature.

    It meters great thru own 550's and easily stays within Dillon's accuracy window of -1/+1 grain. Usually it's within just 1.0 grain ! This is with their small charge bar, too. Have called them about the XS bar & it seems it is only for a very narrow range and specific use, etc. Would encourage making use of their Cust. Svc. Line just for the concise info.

    However, it's easy to see the accuracy difference between TG & WSF ! {& others, of course} TG is simply an inherently accurate powder that produces v. low SD's in the chrono work have done with it in 9mm !
     
  8. ron59

    ron59 Bustin Caps

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    As long as you're careful... keep shooting the TG.

    That's what I'm using right now, shoots great. It's NOT a good powder for careless reloaders though, nor would I recommend it for someone just starting up with reloading. Once you have plenty of experience though, and have a solid "process" in place, then maybe try it. But plenty of people use it with no issues. It's the #1 powder at the IDPA nationals year after year, by far.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2011
  9. Hoser

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    147 MG with 3.5 TG loaded to 1.145 with Federal primers and misc brass is about a 130-132 pf in my 5 inch STI. Accuracy wise it holds 1.5-2.5 inch groups at 25 yards off bags.
     
  10. Flipz

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    I load MG 147gr CMJ's with 3.3gr's of TG at a 1.135 OAL. I haven't tested it for accuracy as this is a load I use for suppressed shooting. It functions 100% in both my G17 and P226 when shooting them with my SilencerCo Osprey 9mm.