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Metro Arms 1911 (my findings)

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by madecov, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno

    I had ordered a Metro Arms American Classic II 5" in hard chrome through a distributor.
    The gun arrived and looked great. I figured it was a great value for the money spent and the few reviews I could find seemed to be positive.

    Well, examining the gun I found the following

    Slide to frame fit is excellent, trigger is very very good
    but

    Extractor Clocking
    Poor barrel fit, possible incorrect feed ramp angle.
    Only the provided ACT magazine would fit (Les Baer, Wilson, Mcormick and Colt magazines will not lock in)

    When hand feeding from the magazine all rounds take a nose dive into the feed ramp and the gun will not chamber a round unless it is from a single round in the magazine.

    I contact the distributor and have the gun exchanged for a second one.

    Second gun has a non clocking extractor but all of the rest of the issues are identical.

    Gun will be sent to factory service for repair along with my magazines. But I will not ever recommend, sell or stock any of these products again.

    I have also sent an e mail to both the importer and manufacturer. I doubt I will receive a response.
     
  2. bac1023

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  3. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno

    Considering I can stock the Citadel at $100.00 less but in Blue It is an issue the Importer and Manufacturer need to address.
     
  4. JoshuaC

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    Back when shopping for a 1911, I came across the metro arms line, and never saw too many complaints with them. Maybe it's the chrome models?
     
  5. FLIPPER 348

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  6. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno

    Possible, but why would the chrome models be different from a blued model? The basic slide and frame starts the same.
     
  7. michael t

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    Sorry your having a problem Their not big on mail so I will try to help you. Here what you do
    I am in admin and moderator on Eagle board go to

    http://http://www.bersa.com/forum/ join and send a PM to BersaSales explaining you problem. He will help you on this matter he's like #2 at Eagle..
    If you need me for any thing else you can reach me at http://bersachat.com That's my board
    Also if you send in Use the warranty center in La. Name slips me at this sec. He does great work. My 2nd choice be Co gun works in Co.

    Please do this I will go their and give him a heads up So he will be looking for your PM.

    If your going to the NRA convention drop by Bersa booth we all will be their .
     
  8. FXD

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    I had the very same issues with my blued Metro Arms Commander, not real happy about it.
     
  9. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno


    How was yours resolved?
     
  10. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno

    Thanks
     
  11. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno


    Can't fire a gun that will not chamber a round or hold a magazine properly.
     
  12. bac1023

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    Mine has been perfect, granted I don't have a ton of rounds through it.
     
  13. FLIPPER 348

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    It held the mag fine as you said and hand cycling in no way is similar to the actual firing of the pistol.
     
  14. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno

    It will only hold the one ACT magazine. When the magazine is loaded it will not chamber a round. I can get it to load a single round and the would need to eject the magazine.

    Definitely not correct. I have owned several 1911's over the years, if a 1911 won't hold a Colt brand magazine something is wrong.
     
  15. FLIPPER 348

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    how do you know?? you never attempted to fire the 1911
     
  16. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno

    Not going to get into a P***ing match with you.
    I have owned numerous 1911's over the years including three Colt's, a Mcormick Custom, two by IMI and a Norinco. This just aint right.

    If a gun will not chamber a round from a full magazine and it can only use one magazine then it aint right.
     
  17. I'm also having issues with the American Classic Commander I just got. The Act mag that came with the gun will not chamber a round when fully loaded (the top round nose dives into the frame), it will only work with 7 or less rounds in it. The gun also has feeding/extraction issues.
     
  18. michael t

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    We have a list of the warranty centers on http://bersachat.com as the Classic uses same . . The info should also be with you paper work that came with pistol.

    The folks at Eagle want you happy and will do all they can.
     
  19. madecov

    madecov book em' Danno

    I did join the Bersa web site and sent a message as you suggested.

    I'll ship the gun for service next week, but I can't sell them to my customers.
     
  20. Oaklands

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    I have the AC II and it has been flawless. Takes any mag (even cheap ones) and feeds fine. It is a very accurate gun. It almost sounds like a bad run or something. The good part is they will make it right.

    Sorry to hear you are having troubles but Michael T is putting you in the correct hands. This is the first time I have heard anything bad about the Metro Arms brand.

    I actually trust carrying my AC II more than my CBOB. It is much less picky about the mags that go in it. I am not comparing the 2 guns as far as quality goes, but if someone said here are 2 1911 mags and you must carry one of your 1911's into a bad area, I would choose the AC II first.

    My CBOB won't even work properly with the mags that came with it, but my AC II works fine with them.
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2011