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McLaren Mercedes Fined & Penalized

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by isuzu, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. isuzu


    Jul 3, 2005
    North America
    McLaren Mercedes was fined $100 million after being found guilty of industrial espionage against Ferrari. They are also stripped or their constructor's points for the season.

    The drivers, however, get to keep their points.
  2. ahtsay


    Jan 16, 2006

  3. bokbok_05


    Apr 24, 2005
    IMHO, dapat kasama na penalised ang driver's championship points. Kung napatunayan na ginamit ng Mclaren ang mga data ng Ferrari, it means nag benefit din ang mga drivers. Its the team that are penalised and the drivers are part of the team.
  4. NFL fined Patriots coach Bill Belichick $500,000 and team $250,000 for spying on opponent

    By DAVE GOLDBERG, AP Football Writer

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Bill Belichick should be able to read this signal clearly:

    Spy on your opponents, and it will cost you.

    The New England coach was fined the NFL maximum of $500,000 Thursday and the Patriots were ordered to pay $250,000 for stealing an opponent's defensive signals.

    Commissioner Roger Goodell also ordered the team to give up next year's first-round draft choice if it reaches the playoffs and second- and third-round picks if it doesn't.

    The videotaping came to light after a camera was confiscated from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella while he was on the New York Jets' sideline during New England's 38-14 win last Sunday at Giants Stadium.

    The NFL said the camera was seized before the end of the first quarter and had no impact on the game.

    "This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell said in a letter to the Patriots.

    He said he considered suspending Belichick but didn't "largely because I believe that the discipline I am imposing of a maximum fine and forfeiture of a first-round draft choice, or multiple draft choices, is in fact more significant and long-lasting, and therefore more effective, than a suspension."

    Instead, Goodell imposed the biggest fine ever on a coach and took away a first-round draft pick as a penalty for the first time in NFL history.

    Reached at his home, Patriots owner Robert Kraft declined to comment.

    Belichick, however, accepted full responsibility "for the actions that led to tonight's ruling. Once again, I apologize to the Kraft family and every person directly or indirectly associated with the New England Patriots for the embarrassment, distraction and penalty my mistake caused."

    "I also apologize to Patriots fans and would like to thank them for their support during the past few days and throughout my career," Belichick said in a statement issued by the team. "As the Commissioner acknowledged, our use of sideline video had no impact on the outcome of last week's game. We have never used sideline video to obtain a competitive advantage while the game was in progress."

    Goodell's hard line on discipline has been aimed so far at players -most notably Michael Vick and Adam "Pacman" Jones.

    By penalizing a coach and a team he showed that no one, not even management, was immune.

    "We support the commissioner and his findings," the New York Jets said.

    New England, strengthened by the addition of Randy Moss, two other first-rate wide receivers and linebacker Adalius Thomas, is considered one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl for the fourth time since the 2001 season. If the Patriots lose their first-rounder next season they still will have a first-round pick, obtained from San Francisco in the deal that brought Moss from Oakland.

    NFL rules state "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." They also say all video for coaching purposes must be shot from locations "enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

    That was re-emphasized in a memo sent Sept. 6 to NFL head coaches and general managers. In it, Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations wrote: "Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

    The NFL statement said Goodell believed Kraft was unaware of Belichick's actions.

    But it said the commissioner believed penalties should be imposed on the club because "Coach Belichick not only serves as the head coach but also has substantial control over all aspects of New England's football operations. His actions and decisions are properly attributed to the club."

    On Wednesday, Belichick issued a one-paragraph statement 10 minutes before his regular availability, saying he had spoken with Goodell "about a videotaping procedure during last Sunday's game and my interpretation of the rules."

    "Although it remains a league matter, I want to apologize to everyone who has been affected, most of all ownership, staff and players," he said.

    The Patriots have been caught once before. Last November, during their 35-0 victory in Green Bay, the Packers caught Estrella shooting unauthorized video and told him to stop.

    NFL coaches long have suspected opponents of spying. In the early 1970s, the late George Allen, coach of the Washington Redskins, routinely would send a security man into the woods surrounding the team's practice facility because he suspected there were spies from other teams there.

    And coaches like Seattle's Mike Holmgren and Philadelphia's Andy Reid, among others, always cover their mouths when calling plays from the sideline because they fear other teams have lip readers trying to determine their calls.

    The most recent hefty fine against a coach was in 2005, when Tagliabue fined former Minnesota coach Mike Tice $100,000 for scalping Super Bowl tickets.

    Last November, Goodell fined Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher, co-chairman of the competition committee, $12,500 for criticizing officials. He also fined Pittsburgh owner Dan Rooney, one of his mentors and the man who informed him he had been elected commissioner, for the same violation.

  5. The FIA World Motorsport council (WMSC) has done the right thing to penalize McLaren Mercedes after that espionage scandal....

    But i also think that Alonso and Hamilton should also be given their share of penalty as well since they are part of the team that was handed down a hefty fine and stripped of constructor's points...

    go Ferrari! go kimi!

  6. atmarcella


    Aug 27, 2004
    if i were ron dennis i'd threaten to throw in the towel, lets see what they'll do after that...

    they didnt really steal those documents, it was given to them by a person applying for a job.
  7. mtho


    Nov 18, 2005
    I think their success is part also because of the drivers they have. magaling yung rookie nila. and alonso is the reigning champ, but hamilton is leading that says a lot. and because mike is retired, pag andyan pa si mike ala mangyayari sa mclaren hehehe. but seriously their cars has always been good in fact it was stronger in the staight for a few years na, kaya lang di naman straight lahat yung tracks kaya sa discarte pa din ng driver dun magaling si schumacher.
  8. bulm540


    Jun 18, 2004
    Ferrari can't swallow the fact that they are getting their butts kicked.
    Mclaren Fastest again in Belgium. Go Lewis and Fernando!
  9. isuzu


    Jul 3, 2005
    North America
    McLaren Mercedes should have reported it to the FIA or the WMSC if they weren't interested in the documents.

    Lastest update is that Alonso is now implicated for having knowledge of the said documents.

    McLaren Mercedes is also required to submit the technical specs for their 2008 cars.
  10. Cheating is the name of the game, everybody driven by the motto "Winning is everything"...

    Steroid use, espionage, bribery, 'dagdag-bawas', age limits violations, fake nationalities... you name it, the sportsworld has it. :upeyes:
  11. just wanna add a bit more to this, sir. the full statement of the FIA WMSC verdict can be read at website and it showed that McLaren drivers, dela rosa and alonso have been recieving info about the red car's technical data since march this year (during the season opener australian gp). secret data about the weight distribution, brakes, type of gas used to inflate tyres, ferrari's race strategy, etc.

    now in my book, that is called cheating.
  12. atmarcella


    Aug 27, 2004
    who wouldnt be interested in these data, its like having a 13 yr. old hotty virgin fall in your lap and telling her sorry i cant do anything to're to young for me:sad:

    they should penalize the hotty virgin:thumbsup:

    walang kasalanan mclaren dyan...lalaki lang sila:supergrin:
  13. s0nny_g17


    Jan 19, 2006
    Quezon Province
    drivers are part of the team so they should be penalized too if they have knowledge about it.
  14. isuzu


    Jul 3, 2005
    North America
    There were no minors involved:supergrin: and they were fully aware of the consequences if it was discovered. $100 million is a lot of money. They should have invested it in research instead.;)
  15. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

    Oct 1, 2002
    Since mclaren used the stolen data then they should pay the price, drivers included.

    Go Ferrari...(biased ba) hahaha:supergrin:
  16. bulm540


    Jun 18, 2004
    Bwa ha ha ha!!!!