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"Map Your Neighborhood"

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by Bolster, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    As part of CERT I received a flyer to attend a COPE "Map Your Neighborhood" event. I may attend, because I'm (1) curious and (2) suspicious. It's FEMA-based, and I think it may be .gov's way of knowing who is prepping; I believe the idea is to knock on neighbor's doors and see if they're prepared (?) and to see who's not prepared, but I won't know until I attend.

    Brochure says: "Statistics show that 90% of all survivors of disasters are rescued by other survivors. It may be up to you to save the life of another or you may depend on your neighbors to rescue you or your loved ones....[We] identify skills and equipment each neighbor has that may help in such a event, create a neighborhood map pinpointing the locations of all natural gas meters and compile a contact list that includes the names of neighborhood residents who may need extra help in a disaster such as the elderly, people with disabilities, or children who are home alone during certain times of the day."

    Some of you will undoubtedly say "Don't Go!" because this will raise my profile as a potential prepper. Yes, well...I'm already there with my CERT certification, and my Neighborhood Watch duties, and my Emergency Radio Net association. So I don't see any additional harm coming from this, that I haven't sustained already.

    But I am powerfully curious what FEMA is up to with their grassroots preparedness effort. Obviously I would not admit to preparing anything (other than the ham radio, I'll admit that, it's documented and known). But what I'm most curious about is, does FEMA request the information that's collected? Or does it stay local? Anybody want to bet???

    I'd like to hear from all those guys who mockingly said that "You're too small to bother, the government isn't interested in you, the government won't come to take any of your preps" from my "Funk" thread. This is your chance to reassure me that the government has no interest in any citizen's preparations and would not commandeer what they "need" in an event. Or that they're checking to see who is illegally leaving children home alone. And while you're at it, please also reassure me that .gov wouldn't be creating an army of "lovable do-gooder neighbor spies" to get the information that wouldn't be given to, say, LEOs knocking on the door.
     
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  2. UneasyRider

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    I say go for it. You are always doing the right thing in helping people or preparing to do so, and it never hurts to be on the inside so that you know what is going on. Then you can tell us!

    I have a map of my neighborhood that I made 15 years ago and have updated on a regular basis with names (memory) and other notes that I think will be useful in the future. Everything from where there kids are going to college, dangerous dogs, shooters, deviants, and the like.
     


  3. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    I started early...

    [​IMG]
     
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  4. NecoDude

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    Bolster... Your map is too danm funny... although I think that map works for 90% of all blocks, you very well could live next door to me but I'm not the vagabond or idiot...

    Training of any kind is never a bad thing....
     
  5. kostnerave

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    I live right down the street from you and keeping a low profile.
    :steamed:
     
  6. Interestingly enough, we know every single family on our "block". It's 3 miles to walk around it. FEMA wasn't needed. It's what people do here in the country.
     
  7. racerford

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    I know most of my neighbors, and would even help most of the ones I don't even like if there were a short term disaster. We have a number of retired people that might need help. I am no pup, but I am younger and healthier than them, so I would help.

    I think one of the things on the list is who has (potable?) wells. I think this is the most nosey of the questions, but it is public record as well.

    I might do the the task and not turn it over to anyone.

    If there were a devastating tornado or flood, you would want to know how many people to look for in a house. I think it also asks about who has a generator. This would be important in hot climates so people can at know who would be able to store medicines.

    For me, it would depend on the event and the the people.
     
  8. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    It would be fun to report certain PITA neighbors as being hugely stocked, listing their preps to contain multiple generators, massive food supplies, guns, NVG, grenades, & land mines and then sit back and watch to see what happens.

    :rofl:

    LOL. No, I would not really do that. (I don't think.) Who was it on here that was saying that we all had to learn to think like outlaws? LOL!

    Geez, this list is so completely devoid of people who appreciate humor (except for NecoDude), I don't know why I even put forth the effort. I'm probably the only guy who thinks this would be a funny prank.
     
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  9. B.Reid

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    That looks like a map of your State.
     
  10. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

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    And he didn't label at least 3 of them who no habla ingles.

    Or the unrecorded ones in the rented out basements.

    Or on the bright side, if the drug dealer is actually a hot chick like Mary Louise-Parker. Don't laugh, its California, it could happen.
     
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  11. dissthis

    dissthis Gun Fan

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    According to your map you need to move!!
    I am a member of CERT here. A while back we got a form asking about our level of prepardness; what we owned like chainsaws, 4X4 etc. needless to say I did NOT fillout and return the form.
     
  12. TangoFoxtrot

    TangoFoxtrot OIF 04-05

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    Nice neighborhood you fit right in.:whistling: just kidding!:supergrin:
     
  13. TangoFoxtrot

    TangoFoxtrot OIF 04-05

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    I have the streets mapped out and escape routes up the mountain and out to rural areas thats it. In my neighborhood everyone stays to themselves mostly ( which I like, no drama). So if a SHTF senario happens its every man for themselves in my hood.
     
  14. Might be time to move out of that neighborhood...just saying. And since your moving anyway, might think about leaving LA, which by all accounts is a terrible, terrible place. And since your leaving LA, you might think about leaving Commifornia. Go to a state that loves freedom. :cool:

    Edit: PS...do you have a zombie living across the street from you?
     
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  15. racerford

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    My wife is in CERT for the next town over (our town doesn't have one) and they had the same survey. She did not complete it for two reason. One we are not in their town, so it did not apply to her. Second we don't provide that kind of information about ourselves to others.
     
  16. jason10mm

    jason10mm NRA-GOA-TSRA

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    Come on, the gov't can barely maintain accurate records of highly sensitive things like medical records, you think they have the money and resources to create a chainsaw database?

    I think this is really just a good natured attempt to spark the community juices that used to exist naturally. Folks these days in highly mobile suburban neighborhoods don't know their neighbors, lots of men don't handle their lawn chores, and transplanted folks from gentler climates may not be ready for incliment weather. The gov't is actually going a GOOD THING by making these folks realize their helplessness and maybe improve their situation.

    Sheesh, you guys see black helicopters and alien probes in everything :)
     
  17. NecoDude

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    Jason10mm - that's what the foil hats are for silly...

    In a true SHTF the .gov is days away from helping... People laughed at Burt Gummer too but he had it right... "Imminent Domain"
     
  18. racerford

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    I have gone through the materials. It is really about neighbors working with neighbors (15-25 homes). They ekeep the documents, they are not turned in. I would guess the biggest risk is it would provide a list of the elderly, disabled and young so that a robber would know where the easiest targets are. A list of tools would do the same.

    No place in the process did it talk about turning anything into a central authority. It did not ask about stores of food.

    People knowing where to cut of the gas is not a bad thing. They could eventually find it if they are up to no good. But when your gas is leaking seconds count.

    It is not as big brother as it may seem at first bblush.
     
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  19. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

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    I just want to see for myself if they request copies of the local information or not. Also I'm curious to know who holds the information gathered.
     
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  20. Kieller

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    First off...love the map Bolster! Cracked me up.

    When I originally signed up for CERT they had a large questionaire about what we had and what skills we possessed. I obviously did not fill it out to the full extent but I did list skills and other basic stuff such as tools. However, that was just for our local branch, FEMA had nothing to do with it.

    With FEMA involved for yours that makes me more weary. I would be even more cautious on what you put down for equipment and with your involvement with CERT and radio it seems that they already know some basics. I wouldn't elaborate but it could be useful to see which neighbors show up and what they have to say.

    I could easily see this being a resource for the local responders, however I am seriously doubting that they would come knocking if they needed chainsaws or tools. The list seems to be something for your neighborhood to use and not the gubermint to use against you. This also means that everyone on the block will know who to come running to when TSHTF, if they don't already.

    Personally, I would go and just get a sense of how others are responding/interacting.

    Your map reminds me of my neighborhood and I am definitely NOT on the west coast. I have about 2 or 3 houses on the entire block that are not registered lib-tards.