Mandatory Chant: "Our Forefathers Were Illegal Immigrants"

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  2. OK, so some of my ancestors had an "open door" policy. It was a mistake. Everybody outta the pool and GTFO.


  3. Paul7

    Paul7 New Guy

    When the first English colonists came to North America, they were coming from one part of English territory to another, so they were NOT illegal immigrants. Same thing here in NM, there are hundreds of thousands of descendants of Spanish settlers, who came from Spain or South American Spanish territory to what is now NM Spanish territory.
  4. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

    They didn't use the term illegal immigrant back then, but...
  5. JBnTX

    JBnTX Texas

    Their forefathers were legal immigrants, not illegal immigrants.
    Too many people get the terms mixed.

    This country was built by legal immigrants.
    All the illegal immigrants have ever done is take from this country and never give anything back.
  6. Well, this is certainly moral relativism taken to a ridiculous extreme...


    LASTRESORT20 LongTerm-Guy

    And then our Forefathers made laws for "their" new home.
  8. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

    This territory didn't belong to the colonists, it wasn't given to them...

    REally? Where did they apply for their visas?
  9. BINGO! You got it right. The same goes for Texas.
  10. Were you even legal, back in, say Italy ?

    Did your original ancestors had legal papers to move to the land now called Italy?


  11. Do you understand the concept of "Legal"?

    There wasn't an existing law in North America that made migration "Illegal" hence the could not have been doing anything illegal.
  12. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

    You don't need a law to tell someone what belongs to them...
  13. JBnTX

    JBnTX Texas


    Visas were not required. The original immigrants broke no laws when they came to America.

    Unlike the current crop of illegal trespassers who do break the law when they enter this country illegally.

    There's a big difference.

    #13 JBnTX, Oct 5, 2012
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  14. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

    They took over something that didn't belong to them, even if there was no written law, it's the same basic principle.
  15. Ignorance is not your friend.

    The Natives at the time did not have a concept of "possesion" as we know it. Their "territory" was limited to what they were standing on basically. Personal possesions were also shared.

    Quit looking at history through the glasses of today's values/morals/concepts.
  16. well i think the USDA should be rebuilt from the ground up, with out the progressive liberalism part
  17. Who did it belong to?
  18. Paul7

    Paul7 New Guy

    Where was the Indian's titles to the land? They were constantly fighting each other for possession, and in the white man ran into a superior opponent. If you disagree, perhaps you could give your house lot back to the Indians.
    #18 Paul7, Oct 5, 2012
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2012
  19. PawDog

    PawDog NRA Member

    And the natives here when the colonists arrived also migrated here from other locations, many proven to be from Asia. Were they illegal also? :upeyes:
    #19 PawDog, Oct 5, 2012
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2012
  20. rgregoryb

    rgregoryb Sapere aude

    conquerors is more like it, and the winners write the history...........

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