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Man with gun in Walmart arrested for refusing to show permit

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by TBO, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. tantrix

    tantrix J'aimeLouisiane

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    I don't know if the guy was "shaky" about the laws or not...if a permit is required to open carry in IA, then I'd guess that's why he was asked to produce it. If open carry is legal there without a permit, then it was a false arrest. I'm not taking sides, just looking at it from both angles.

    ETA- If SgtScott31 is correct, then said person was indeed required to show his permit since IA isn't a true open carry state (permit required for any type of carry).
     
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  2. NickC50310

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    Correct. It is not a local ordinance enacted by the city. Statewide open carry is illegal within city limits without a permit. It is not specific to certain cities. It is not enacted by each city.

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  3. NickC50310

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    Absolutely he was 100% legal until he refused to show his permit.

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  4. NickC50310

    NickC50310

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    Just to further explain- it is not enacted by individual cities or jurisdictions. It is a statewide law. Open carry within city limits requires a permit.

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  5. NickC50310

    NickC50310

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    Its not that hard to figure out really. I dont understand why everyone is getting so confused. Im drunk now and even i can make sense of it! Lol! Outside city limits- open carry legal for all. Within city limits- open carry requires a permit. Whats so hard? Lol


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  6. Bruce M

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    Maybe he was certain he was outside city limits. That makes him seem incrementally less.... errr wait, no it doesn't.
     
  7. Roger1079

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    Ha ha.....Not at all. Stupidity of your location is not a valid excuse.
     
  8. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    He was wearing his police uniform. That's all the proof you get, prior to court.
     
  9. relayman

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    Pretty much what I said .
     
  10. BamaTrooper

    BamaTrooper Retired

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    :dunno:
     
  11. SgtScott31

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    In my opinion his capacity in working for Walmart does not play a role in this. He was a LEO in an easily identifiable uniform. Case law in my state shows that even if officers are working off-duty they can still enforce laws of the state, regardless of what capacity he is working in involving the off-duty employer.
     
  12. vart

    vart

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    Yep. I always OC when I'm hiking or gold prospecting, and on occasion, I need to stop by a gas station or run into a store for something on my way home or into the bush.

    I've never had a problem...:dunno:

    I've lived in Iowa, and there is a reason it is a blue state...:whistling:
     
  13. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Always the low price, always.
     
  14. brboyer

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    No, what you said was:
    Not even close to what I said.
     
  15. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Can I see your receipt now?
     
  16. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

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    Okay, you've had a couple days to sober up. I cannot find the state law that says that. How about helping out with a link to that provision of the law?

    Thanks...
     
  17. DanaT

    DanaT Pharaoh

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  18. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Dana,

    Please stop trolling my threads.

    Thanks in advance.

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  19. DanaT

    DanaT Pharaoh

    I am confused.


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  20. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

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    I doubt that...