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Man injured at my gun range.

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by norton, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. Quote from sheriffs deputy in paper " He was using some high primer ammo and the follower hit the primer, blew the barrel out".
    Thankfully he has non life threatening injuries.

    That's all I know.

    My guess-could have been a squib load that plugged the barrel, and he followed with a second shot.
    Or I suppose it could have been a high primer.
    This was Cowboy shoot weekend at the range, so there is a good possibility he was shooting lever action.

    What do ya think? What can we learn from this?
  2. fredj338


    Dec 22, 2004
    Well, little since we don't really know what happened. All kinds of things can go wrong w/ ammo in diff guns types. A lever gun can't to my knowledge fire out of battery like some semiautos, so I doubt the high primer thing. I have seen squibs, big problem w/ CAS guys loading bunnyfart loads. Then there is the RN bullet in a tubular mag detonating a primer, lots of things can go wrong. With out specifics, it all speculation.

  3. Yes but speculation is so much fun.
    I doubt its round nose bullets. Do they allow them when shooting steel?
  4. I re read the article and realized the deputy said the shooters finger wasnt on the trigger when it "exploded". I assume they got this from the victim, but its hard to believe in a state of shock he would have know this.
  5. Havok941


    Oct 14, 2011
    I'm kinda with fred on this....without any real information we can't really speculate how to avoid this unknown situation.
  6. ArcAngel


    Apr 12, 2009
    What we can learn is simple. Obviously he was shooting a Glock .40 that KB'd!

    Probably had the clip in upside down and was shooting through a conversion barrel (.40 s&w to 9mm back to .40 s&w)
  7. unclebob


    Oct 14, 2000
    Mary Esther FL
    And you forgot he was using Tight Group. And he was using a progressive press.
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2011
  8. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

    Feb 9, 2008
    N. Dallas
  9. Just1More


    Mar 18, 2009
    Don't shoot reloads....that's what I learned.
  10. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

    May 31, 2007
    Old Colorado City
    It just went off!!!!!!!!

    My favorite excuse!
  11. cysoto

    cysoto Gone Shooting!

    Jan 21, 2004
    Denver, CO
    I wish I could afford to just shoot factory ammo... :crying:
  12. samurairabbi

    samurairabbi Dungeon Schmuck

    Dec 31, 1998
    Indianapolis, IN
    ... and he probably was trying to go with resized Berdan-primed aluminum Blazer casings! I mean, reloading boxer primers is for wimps!
  13. fredj338


    Dec 22, 2004
    Then you learned nothing.:upeyes: Nothing wrong w/ shoot properly prepared handloads, nothing.
    Have you ever heard someone that had an AD tell you anything but "I don't know how that happened". I am sure his finger hit the trigger, I am 90% sure it was operater error, almost always is. Either the reload was bad or he did something he wasn't supposed to while shooting.:dunno:
  14. PhantomF4E


    Aug 24, 2010
    South Florida
    99% operator error 1% mechanical failure . Roll the dice on this one ......
  15. SJ 40

    SJ 40

    Jan 17, 2011
    Yes round nosed flat point lead bullets are the norm for most lever action rifles on CAS steel.
    If it was a1860 Henry rifle replica,one must use care when loading the magazine tube,not to let the follower slip thus the chance of impacting the primers of each round loaded and one heck of a kaboom.
    Another common occurrence with tuned CAS rifles is lightened firing pin springs, to function with the lightened main springs thus the use of Federal primers. Not to mention the fad of removal of the lever safety in the 1873 or welding up the trigger/sear allowing them to fire out of battery. Any number of things could occur and we do not have enough facts to guess but folks like to let their minds run wild so the above facts within CAS are food for the fire. SJ 40
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2011
  16. Sometime this week I will get to the local gun shop. I'm sure they know what happened. I'm still guessing bunny fart or squib round stuck in the barrel.
  17. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO
    If I'm not mistaken, it was a police officer who gave the statement to the press and I have read on the internet, therefor it must be true, that police officers know absolutely nothing about guns so one can only surmise that in reality the incident actually involved a bow, an arrow and an unfortunate child with an apple on his head.

    It's either that or Norton just trying to start trouble because his wife is ignoring him.

  18. WiskyT

    WiskyT Malcontent

    Jun 12, 2002
    North Carolina
    Big cases, small dose of fast powder, lot's of potential to double or tripple charge a case. The upside is, it can be blamed on phantom "detonation" as that scenario has been for decades before Glocks came on to the scene.
  19. Colorado4Wheel


    Nov 2, 2006
    You can, you just don't do much of it.
  20. bush pilot

    bush pilot

    Jan 29, 2004
    Never let facts get in the way of a good story.