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M&P .40c FRAME CRACKED!! BRAND NEW GUN

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by DaBurna, Aug 21, 2012.

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  1. DaBurna

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    Got up this morning to inspect my pistol again from yesterday's shooting... The range session went 100%... Unfortunately, I have a crack on the frame right next to the take down lever that. Obviously I'm NOT happy about this b/c my gun only went 100 rounds before having this issue. I feel pretty confident that Smith will make it right, but it's the principle of the matter. Hold on to your G27's yet Fellas!! I've never been a fan of roll pins to start with..

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  2. WoodenPlank

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    Holy crap...

    Well, look at it this way: Better to find it after the range session than to find it in the middle of one after digging your slide out of your arm or forehead.
     


  3. ca survivor

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    wow, that's terrible.
     
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  4. DaBurna

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    I felt it wanted to bind up yesterday under reccoil with some 165gr Blazer Brass... But I didn't really think about the frame cracking until I inspected it again this morning. It still never failed to fire. I think the recoil was causing a "hitch" where that crack was in respect to the front rails the slide rides on. You could feel it draaaag slightly during recoil. This happened about the 75 round mark for like 10 rounds then it fired again normally.

    I just got off the phone with a service rep and they're mailing me a shipping label. In the meanwhile, I found a link to submit a repair request online. Hopefully I'll get my label mailed electronically today. Hopefully they'll just sent me a new frame and recoil assembly. The spring was binding up on the barrel lip (probably as a result of being misaligned during the frame crack).

    The gun was test fired 7/28/12 :crying:

    Well never had this problem with my G27... Maybe she put the HEX on my M&P!! :supergrin::rofl:
     
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  5. 2-tap

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    These things happen. I had a fnh fnx 9mm brand new shot 60 rounds through it and it started shooting way right so i put it down. When i got home i discovered the takedown pin was broke. It got fixed no questions asked. When these companies put out as many guns as they do your going to get some flaws now and then. I understand your upset, i was too but dont bash s&w bc you got a lemon. Glocks have them too! I bought my wife a m&p 9c and we have put about 1000 rounds through it without any malfunctions not even btf!!!

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  6. DaBurna

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    Yeah... Not gonna bash EM... YET..:supergrin:

    I can say this is the 1st .40cal I've owned which is F-U-N to shoot!! I love the gun. Hopefully it goes off for service and returns with a free mag or so!:supergrin:

    I'm just THANKFUL this isn't my only denfense option... I feel sorry for those who have their SOLE weapon break!:crying::shocked:
     
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  7. WoodenPlank

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    Anyone can make a lemon. It's A) how often it happens, and B) how they make it right that counts.
     
  8. SigFTW

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    That's got to be frustrating with a new gun. I'm sure S&W will take care of you. Let us know what they say.

    If S&W wont help you can always call Dixie Tupperware for help :tongueout:
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  9. WiskyT

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    If the serial# is part of the component that broke, you are going to eat an FFL fee unless you get SW to pay for that. They wouldn't pay for my FFL fee when my 442 wore out, but the gun was at least a few years old at that point. SW would not put the same serial# on the new gun, at least not with a wheel gun.
     
  10. hamster

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    Are you 100% sure that is a crack? Looking & my M&P9c, I have a similar type of line which seems to be from the moulding process. Can you see it on the inside of the frame? Can you flex the frame and see if the "crack" is through and through?
     
  11. DaBurna

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    I've looked at that... My M&P Shield doesn't have this issue (granted the 9mm<.40cal pressure wise)

    Also the crack is starting to extend BELOW the pinhole as well into the frame. Maybe the rails under recoil torqued this lose causing a crack....
     
  12. fastbolt

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    Uh, the M&P frame appears widened and offset on the left side at that spot by design, and the coil pin is supposed to protrude just enough out the left side to match the offset surface of the frame, in front of the coil pin, so the pin can act as a "stop" for the takedown lever when it's rotated (to help prevent cosmetic damage to the frame material).

    This "frame crack" observation has been made (by mistake) since the first promo pictures were released back in '06, BTW.

    And yes, the Shield is a little different.

    Picture of the 40c from company website: (use the Zoom to see that spot)
    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...57955_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

    Check out the pictures of different M&P's in the Product Spec sheets:
    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...4_750001_750051_779154_-1_757816_757964_image

    Do some searching for M&P pictures and enlarge some of the pics:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=M&P...1I4H7igKhxoGYCA&ved=0CDsQsAQ&biw=1680&bih=904

    You might give your new pistol a complete visual inspection first thing next time and save yourself some excitement. ;)
     
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  13. GAFinch

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    Yeah, I agree. I can't see an actual crack in the pictures either.
     
  14. Z71bill

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    I have 3 M&P pistols - A full size 40, compact 9MM & 40.

    All three have the same look as the OP picture - none of them are cracked.

    If you stress the frame does the crack get larger?

    EDIT: After looking closer - the third picture does look like a crack.
     
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  15. fastbolt

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    Since they're sending you a pre-paid shipping label, return the gun for inspection under warranty. If your frame has developed an actual crack where the frame has the widened step, let them handle it for you under their excellent lifetime warranty.

    If they confirm you're only seeing the normal frame design, and misinterpreting what you think you see (because you didn't notice it when first looking at that spot on the frame, and naturally aren't familiar with the reason for the slight design change/contour on the left side), they can ease your mind.
     
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  16. fastbolt

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    BTW, the right side of the frame at that point doesn't have to be flat and offset more inward because there isn't a takedown lever on the right side (to rotate against the frame). It's just on the left side where a takedown lever has to have clearance (flat surface) for rotation.
     
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  18. Leigh

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    ...and concealed carry would have prevented this.

    Seriously, glad there were no injuries and from what I've heard from a few shooting friends recently, S&W's customer service is as good as it has ever been.