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m&p 22 vs gsg 1911 22

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by win, May 20, 2012.

  1. win

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    I got to hold and shoot a gsg 1911 22. I shoot mainly m&p's though. I am leaning towards the m&p. I know that extra mags for them are hard to get.
    Anyway I know its apple and oranges but what do you think of these .22's?
     
  2. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    If you already have a M&P full size, the M&P 22 is the way to go.

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    M&P 9mm target before acquiring a M&P 22 for affordable practice:

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    M&P 9mm target after acquiring a M&P 22 and practicing with it. There are two groups, one on top one on the bottom.

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    Both are roughly 3" square piece of cardboard, 2" Dot Sticker, 25ft, 115gr practice ammo. The M&P 22 makes for the perfect training companion for a full size M&P 9 or 40.

    In my hands the M&P 22 holds 2" groups at 30 ft. IMO, that's perfectly fine for what I need it to for: a training analog for a M&P 9mm, and a fun plinker.

    It has been 100% reliable with Winchester bulk and Federal bulk copper plated 36gr hollow points.

    My Ruger MKIII 22/45RP inherently has more potential for accuracy. I can achieve .75" to 1" groups at 30ft.

    While I have no issues field stripping & reassembling a Ruger MKIII, it does take a little more conscious effort to do. While I have fun shooting it, I don't look forward to cleaning it. Even though I am not as accurate with it, I find myself grabbing the M&P 22 for fun plinking because it's so darn easy to field strip & clean.

    A basic field strip & reassemble is very easy. Cleaning is easy too. Here's a quick video I uploaded.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6WOtIzgJU"]Field strip and reassembly of a S&W M&P 22 pistol. - YouTube[/ame]

    My two gripes with the M&P 22:

    1. S&W only issues one magazine with it. Magazines can be difficult to locate. I'm waiting for S&W's online store to get restocked. I ordered & received an extra magazine a couple weeks ago. I should have ordered 3.

    2. The M&P 22 has a front dot, rear notch sight set up. I prefer the 3-dot set up on the M&P full size pistol. The M&P 22's slide is aluminum. S&W technician told me not to install a M&P 9's rear sight onto the M&P 22 because the M&P 9's rear sight is steel and will damage the M&P 22's aluminum slide. S&W does not have any replacement 2-dot rear sights for the M&P 22.

    I don't own a GSG 1911-22. I've shot a magazine through a friend's. It's a nice .22lr pistol. Eventually, I want one for a training analog for my Ruger SR1911.
     

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  3. bac1023

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    Since I prefer 1911s, that's the style I would go with. YMMV
     
  4. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    You prefer 1911's?!? :shocked: I had no idea. ;)
     
  5. win

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    you have a SR1911!!!!! cool
    What is the dovetails on the gsg? will novak sights work on the gsg?
    Is their any other sight choices for the m&p?
    thanks again
     
  6. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    Yup. I own the elusive SR1911. I was on a wait list for a few months, but not as long as others.

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    I bought it because it is my opinion that as an American, it is a moral imperative to own at least one 1911. I really don't feel any urge to buy another 1911.

    It's fun to shoot. Runs like a champ. I just don't shoot it often due to the cost of .45ACP ammo. Heck, I gripe enough about the cost of 9mm.

    Some M&P 22 owners have received 2-dot rear sights for a M&P 9 from S&W customer service. They report that the swap can be done. The only thing lost is elevation adjustment on the rear sight.

    Because the M&P 22 has an aluminum slide, I'm not taking the risk of putting on a steel M&P 9 rear sight. I want a 2-dot rear sight, but not bad enough to potentially damage my firearm.

    I haven't found any replacement rear sights for the M&P 22.

    It's not that the sight set up is bad, it's just that I prefer a 3-dot.
     
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  7. win

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    I would be ok with the 2 dot set up. I like it on my sig's and kahr.
    Why would steel sight damage the slide?
    thanks again
     
  8. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    The slide is aluminum. Aluminum is softer than steel.
     
  9. ponchsox

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    44mag.com has M&P22 mags in stock now.
     
  10. jeanderson

    jeanderson Toga!... Toga! Platinum Member

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! :cool: I've been looking all around for an extra mag for my M&P 22 - just ordered one. My only gripe with this gun was the fact that it only came with the one mag.
     
  11. JaPes

    JaPes Rimfire 1010101

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    Thank you sir!
     
  12. wdp

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    I just purchased a M&P 22 yesterday. Will have it early next week after I get purchase document. Never had a S&W M&P and I shoot both Glocks and 1911's. I hope I'm impressed with the shooting as much as the construction. This gun appears to be top notch engineered. It looks like a striker fired pistol but it's not. Guess that's why there's a thumb safety. I'm a bit concerned about extra mags availability. IMO Smith should have supplied 2 mags with the gun. Will post a range report soon......
     
  13. GWG19

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    I have a GSG 1911. Also a SR1911.
    Back to the GSG.
    I put about 500 rounds through it and it broke. The Magazine safety gave up the ghost. Also in working while it was messed up I broke the thumb safety. It was exchanged for a new gun.
    The second GSG.
    I took the mag safety out. I hated that thing so I fixed said problem.
    I have plans to replace the main spring housing with a flat one and also see it I can get a ambi safety that is steel to work in the gun.
    So far no problems shooting it.