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Looking for Shotgun for Home Defense and never purchased one before...

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by Glock21sf-miami, Aug 15, 2010.


  1. Glock21sf-miami

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    Felow GTers,

    I have several handguns but I am evaluating the purchase of a shotgun for home defense & SHTF scenarios. I have never owned or had much experience with shotguns and would like some help.

    I have been looking at the Rem 870 Tactical. My budget is limited, so I need to stay below $500. I would like to be able to shoot buckshot and slugs depending on the occasion. I have been reading about sabots and rifled barrels... I am assuming the 870 does not have a rifled barrel. The question is, I can shoot buckshot and slugs but NOT sabots?

    I am guessing a rifled barrel would be more accurate at long range. However, for Home Defense / target shooting applications, I may not need long range accuracy.

    For those of you who have the 870, what is the longest distance you can effectively hit a target with a slug? buckshot?

    Comments, suggestions are welcome... Thanks!
     

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  2. JFrame

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    I can't knock the choice of either a Remington or a Mossberg (have a Mossberg 500 myself...).

    But if you're looking to keep $$$ down and not even sure you'll be "into" shotguns beyond a basic model for home defense, I would also throw out consideration of the NEF (H&R) Pardner pump. The plain vanilla 5-shot pump is essentially a Remington 870 clone, and accepts a majority of 870 accessories (excluding barrels).

    I bought one on sale at Dick's for $189, and now I see that they occasionally go on sale for $179. The one I got is rock-solid and reliable. After a few months ownership, I decided to "tactical-ize" it with a Knoxx SpecOps recoil-reducing stock. The total investment on the shotgun was still under $300.

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  3. bikerdog

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    first off the 870 tactical is a great gun and might be the best shot gun on the market. as far as the other questions, I use federal flight control 00 buck in my 870 and can say without a doubt that I'm good with that load out to at least 50 yards. And slugs 100 to 120 with iron sights.
     
  4. vafish

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    Range with buckshot depends a lot on what load you are using and how it patterns in your gun. I'd say it varies from 25-50 yards.

    With slugs I can hit a man sized target easily at 75 yards with a simple bead sight. Rifle type sights will push that out further.

    The 870 is a good choice, if money is tight look at the Express HD model.

    I also like the Mossberg 500 and 590 as well as the Benelli Nova.
     
  5. mixflip

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    I'd pass on the new 870 express. I heard alot of bad things. Remington has hurt its own reputation lately. The 887 was voted one of the worst shotguns of the year!!! I'd pick up an old used 870 in a heart beat though.
     
  6. aippi

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    Remington 870 HD model 25077. Comes with an 18.5" cyle bore bead sight barrel, Remington LE 2 shot extension, rear synthetic stock and Speedfeed LE forend. Best value on the market for an HD. No tacti-fool mess on it. It is a solid fighting shotgun.
     
  7. gnepig

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    There are alot of good pump shotguns outthere for under 500 bucks, you can't go wrong with the 870's or 500's. If you get one of those you will have enough money left to jazz up you're gun with extra's , like a Spec Opps recoil reducing stock... I hear those are the s...t.
     
  8. method

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    The 870 can be had with a rifled barrel, but you don't want it, unless you're stuck using a shotgun for deer hunting, and you can reasonably expect 100 yard+ shots. A rifled barrel is good for slugs and slugs only, it won't do well with shot.
     
  9. fx77

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  10. method

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    Quite a bit more than his budget dictates.
     
  11. Puppy

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    A plain Jane Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 would serve just fine in a home defense role, but if you are looking for something "more tactical" you could probably find a Mossberg 590A1 for under $500 if you shop around a little.
     
  12. Ferdinandd

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    I bought an 870 Tactical. For me, the versatility of Rem-chokes and the fact that it's drilled and tapped (comes with a scope base too) made it worth the additional cost compared to the 25077. I've owned a few 870's and Mossberg 500's (have one now too) and like them both.
     
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    Benelli Supernova Tactical.
     
  14. frank_drebin

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    A $225 Maverick 88 will do everything a 500 will do for about half the money. I've put 1000+ shells ranging from birdshot to 00 buck and a few dozen Magnum loads. It comes with a stock and a pistol grip and can use any aftermarket stock made for a 500. Mine is loaded with 00 buck and hangs over my bedroom door.
     
  15. Glock21sf-miami

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    Great info guys!

    So it seems that 870 and 500 are the most recommended choices.
    Are you guys familiar with the balistics of slugs out of a smooth bore?

    I think the 870 Tactical has a two shot extension...
     
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    870, 18" smooth barrel, bead sight. You can shoot buck, slug, or sabot. Effective range is determined in large part by ammo selection, training/experience, and skill. An average shooter should be able to do 20 yards with buck and 50 with slug/sabot without too much work.
     
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    I have a Mossy 590 that I love! You can find one very reasonable used.
     
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    +1 on the Maverick. I put an ATI pistol grip stock on mine and just shot a 3 gun match with it. It performed just as well as the higher dollar pump guns. Mine is loaded with 00 and stands ready to go too.
     
  19. mixflip

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    My very 1st shotgun was a Maverick 88. I was new in town and that was the only gun I could afford and walk out with the same day. It protected my family just fine until I had enough money to get me a higher quality pump.

    The safety location is what everybody loves on the Maverick usually and $199 brand new is hard to beat.
     
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  20. Ferdinandd

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    Performance with slugs will be limited to the sights, which is why I prefer the 870 Tactical, or a 590 with GRS. As stated, effective range of a CB barrel with buck can vary from 25-50 yards depending on the load (especially the wad and buffer). I have been working on tailoring 00BK to my guns for a long time and have combinations of BPI wads that limit patterns to under 6 inches at 25 yards. I love the versatility of a good shotgun...