Ok guys, I've been working on a load for 200gr bear tooth hard cast. The intended purpose is camp defense and protection while out in the field. The gun is a bone stock 20sf. The whole time during load work up I pulled a bore snake through every 3 rounds. I've got a load for both Longshot and 800x that are giving me 1230-1250 fps. For some reason at that speed 800x seems a little bit easier on the brass ( less bulging) and seems not to eject as far, it also seems not to be quit as loud. Does anyone else have the same experiance with these same powders? Lastly their might be a chance that I'd have to shoot in the dark, can anyone say which one has less flash? I don't plan on shooting many, so it's not a problem hand weighing each load. By the way Im using fed standard LP primers. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!