http://trentonian.com/articles/2011/11/27/news/doc4ed2d59b473f5735416487.txt Tis was the cover of the Trentonian newspaper yesterday. A terribly sad story in actuality but in our firearms discussion and practical application theory , hysterical. The goods : 3 teenage boys survived close range blasts with 12ga birdshot. Not even unconsciousness or knocked down , they Literally demanded to be driven to the hospital rather than hang out for an Ambo. They were NOT EVEN SLOWED DOWN ENOUGH TO BE INCAPACITATED , having talked to some people in teh know ( ive never made it a secret to being a son of a somebody. ) they probably would and could have fought back if necessary but the bad guy bounced Th article quotes one cop as saying that he could count at least fourty pock marks on one guy and how the Injuries were grousome looking but the kids will probably be fine. Thy have confrmation the gunman walked up to the group and definitely fired four 12 ga. Blasts. I post this because its important to me as help for people : I have often tried to show science and how it applies to firearms especially birdshot vs buckshot etc also and how having been raised by a 34 year hi ranking fairly famous police veteran, stuff I've learned from growing up blue blood and breakfast dinner table discussion like what the police use on duty and in defense of THHEIR loved ones , - point being - there has been many posts that experts defend birdshot in home defense situations and ive tried among others have tried to explain and dissuade this from use and popularity This article definitely shows that innocent and regular Teenage boys arr not even dropped down by birdshot blasts ( plural- BLASTS- and do any of you think ON THE RARE GODFORBIDDEN EVENt you need to pull the trigger of a weapon in defense of the lives of your family you and your house- you will be able to fire FOUR BLASTS from your shotgun?!) not even knocked down. NOW imagine it is a hardened criminal , grown man possibly on drugs possibly IN WITHDRAWAL from drugs - hardened grown men of various mental states and with various states of sobriety and or chemical intoxication/impairment/enhancement. That right there is coming to kill your wife and or children before it kills you , so the last thing you see before your property is taken because you have just been killed- now ask yourself: Is birdshot really what you want defending your family?