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Locals Pressure Wisconsin Store Owner Over Decision to Disallow CCW

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by LoadToadBoss, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. LoadToadBoss

    LoadToadBoss IYAAYWOT

    Apr 24, 2008
    Northwest Louisiana
    Locals Pressure Wisconsin Store Owner Over Decision to Disallow Concealed Carry

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    Excuse me if I don't entrust my life to your store security procedures.
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2011
  2. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

    Apr 30, 2005
    ahhh the usual "rights" activists who get so infuriated when someone else exercises their rights.

  3. cowboywannabe

    cowboywannabe you savvy?

    Jan 26, 2001
    dont like the store's policy? dont spend your money there and give them the bad press if you can amoungst other ccw'ers.
  4. Sheepdog Scout

    Sheepdog Scout Behind you!

    Jan 23, 2010
    Who knows?
    It's simple if you don't like a stores policies, don't shop there. But leaving an angry message is the wrong thing to do. It's makes us all look bad. Tell them with your pocket book.
  5. pipedreams

    pipedreams Member

    Feb 19, 2011
    S. E. Iowa
    So if you are conceal carrying who is to know. Don't know how the new Wisconsin law is written but in many states the most that can happen is they ask you to leave. If you don't they can call police and you could have problems. We have some local stores that have signs on their doors stating "No knives, guns or other weapons. You will ask to leave immediately". Interesting thing is one store sells all of the above. It is quite common to see men with folding knives in cases on their belts all the time and have never seen anyone ask to leave.
  6. cfec2008


    May 2, 2010
    I hope no one will give this store any business at all. Hopefully he will be bankrupt in a while and will close his doors and move to a communist country.
  7. HexHead


    Jul 16, 2009
    Oh, here we go with that "make us look bad" crap. The bedwetters already consider us the enemy.
  8. Tommy Hanrahan

    Tommy Hanrahan

    May 17, 2011
    Sure, but there's a lot of people who do not have a strong opinion one way or the other and it does "make us look bad". Why push them to the other side? Keep the weapon concealed, you retain your protection and nobody knows.
  9. Brian Lee

    Brian Lee Drop those nuts

    Jul 28, 2008
    Up a tree.
    If "store procedure" amounted to something better than "cooperate fully with the man who's about to shoot you while waiting your turn to be shot", then maybe I'd be happy to abide by their store procedure.

    My store procedure, is to only go to stores that allow people to do whatever they want for their own self defense.
  10. cowboy1964


    Sep 4, 2009
    So he's considering OC for HALF OF HIS BUSINESS HOURS as an alternative? That makes no sense.
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  11. :goodpost:
    His store, his rules. No matter how much I like my rights, they do not trump his.
  12. RenegadeGlocker


    Jul 8, 2001
    My money, my rules and I am free to tell him and anyone else.
  13. Renegade wins!
  14. If he does want concealed carry, that is his problem. If guns are band in a store in Wisconsin, the store assumes all liability. If guns are allowed, then they are not liable. The addition liability insurance will kill him.
  15. vista461


    Jul 10, 2006
    S.E. WI
    I've been in there. The have quite the security guard, looks straight off the swat team complete with Uncle Mike thigh rig:whistling:
    I also think its funny he's already bringing this attn on himself, when as far as I know the bill hasn't been signed yet and won't go into effect until oct or nov.
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2011
  16. Misty02


    Aug 25, 2008
    Are you certain of that? I haven’t read a law yet where the owner will assume any additional liability by forbidding weapons in their location.

  17. It was not more liable per say but a loss of liability protrection. It was in an article interview with some legal aid group in Milwaukee, I think it was in the Milwaukee paper. I certain it is correct because they had posted no guns allowed signs and were considering due to the liability. I thought it was humorous because they posted a sign to prevent guns when concealed carry is illegal and were thinking of taking them down when it was legal. The person interview was the former governor's sister.
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2011
  18. Misty02


    Aug 25, 2008
    As I understand it, no store (or employer for that matter) can be held liable for things that are beyond their control. Poor lighting, improper maintenance, not addressing known problems/risks and other things may come into play but I doubt that would include forbidding weapons.

    While an attorney may attempt to make a case that a business increased the risk of customers being injured by criminals due to their no weapons policy, I’m not so sure that alone would work to place liability for his client’s injury on said owner. Maybe there is some case law out there where it has worked? It would definitely make some interesting reading. :)

  19. NecoDude


    Mar 22, 2011
    No Name City...
    Okay - say I'm Mr. Dirtbag intending on robbing the store and harming employees and customers. I pattern the store and know exactly when OC is allowed, I learn I won't go in there during that time... say WHAT??? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard... well next to him not allowing CCW. Expressing your opinion with the wallet has changed a lot of silly store policies. If not, there's always someplace down the road.
  20. Toorop


    Apr 28, 2010
    The Midwest.
    They were all over a thread in GNG about Texas destroying property owners rights by forcing them to allow people to keep guns in their cars. It is a sad state of affairs when people don't think property rights are real because they are not enumerated in the Bill of Rights.