LMT or Colt

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  1. thisaway

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    I am guessing that if you add a rail to an LMT, you would probably have spent about the same amount of $$$ as if you had bought the 6940, so there is no particular advantage to either one. The Colt might have greater resale value in the future though.
     

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  2. Colt's are junk. Get the LMT.....and don't shoot it in the house.
     



  3. The more you post, the more I hope for carpal tunnel.
     
  4. HAIL CAESAR

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    :rofl:

    :wavey:
     
  5. I'll join the fray. Colt and BCM are tops in my book. Since you didn't ask about BCM, I would have to say Colt. LMT is a good runner-up but BCM has got 'em beat with their mil-spec gas key. LMT gas key is MIM, if you care.

    I've got a Colt 6920 and a BCM M4. Neither will ever be parted with, 'cept when I hit the grave. You can have the LMT.
     
  6. Constructor

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    Lmt used a few mim parts last year when everyone was out of parts.
    Everything is back to normal now.
    If the ar15 carrier is full ramp it is just as good as a m16 carrier unless you
    Plan to build an illegal machinegun.
    Colt or lmt are fine, colts koolaid is stronger, and lmt doesn't pay cheerleaders
    Pick the features you like.
     
  7. I like Cheerleaders. ;)
     
  8. The Colt doesn't offer anything for the extra mony. The LMT is my choice.
     
  9. kabob983

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    Noveske is like the Rolls Royce of AR-15's. They are extremely well made, very accurate but they don't sacrifice ruggedness for that accuracy. It's an absolute top tier gun. If I could "convince" my wife to let me get another AR I'd jump on that deal and get a 14.5" Reece upper if I could (VIS for the ultimate win).

    BCM aka Bravo Company Manufacturing is a newer company. They do not build any of the components, rather they buy pre-made high quality components and assemble/QC them. They are definitely the new hot mfr in town and their reputation for quality/customer service is unparalleled. They use all the same stringent Mil-Spec requirements that Colt uses save for one...they use a Mid-Length gas system on alot of their rifles which is in alot of ways superior to a Carbine gas system. Both function equally reliably.

    LMT is another very good company but they don't use all the same Mil-Spec requirements (since they aren't a military supplier) that Colt uses. Will you ever know the difference when shooting? Probably not. I'd happily own an LMT.

    Amazingly I'm contemplating selling my beloved BCM upper...to finance a BCM 14.5" middy when they are released. I highly doubt my wife will met me buy another right now and I've got 3 16" Carbine Colts...I kinda wanna fiddle around with the 14.5" (since SBR isn't an option in my state).
     
  10. I have a Colt LE 6920 that has about 750 rounds of crummy Russian garbage ammo through it without a burp. I really like the LMT, though, and would have gotten one if the wait wasn't six months when I was in the market for an AR.

    Top Gun Supply has them for $1150 plus $25 shipping. They are a great company that gets your product to you ASAP. I love doing business with them.

    http://www.topgunsupply.com/long-guns-colt-rifles/

    I think they're mostly equal, but then there's ALWAYS the Colt allure, and that has value.

    PillBox
     
  11. Just bought an LMT from a glocktalk member. The rifle is a complete LMT M4 patrol upper(entry model) on a LMT receiver with a doublestar LPK. The rifle was built by Coastal gun. The lower is marked coastal guns but is made by LMT. To make a long story short the base rifle cost me $750 w/o rear BUIS and M4 handguards. I have put on an ergo grip, DD omega quad rail, and Troy rear BUIS on it and have $1100 in it so far. Saw their booth at a gunshow in Macon, GA and complete LMT uppers w/o rear buis were $425. The uppers are not listed on the coastal guns website coastalgun.com but you could call them to see about shipping. This the best kept secret I have found in buying high quality affordable AR's. For my first carbine I was looking at mid-tier guns like RRA, SW, stag and even arsenal AK's for around $750 until I saw this deal. With Coastal and BCM there is no reason to spend $700-900 on a bushy, stag, SW or RRA. Just my $0.02.:wavey:
     
  12. I've got the LMT Defender, N4 carbine and N4 Recce and no complaints with any but the BCM middie seems like the best for the price today. My shootin' buddy has owned a dozen different guns and puts gobs through his BCM Middie and knows more about ARs than anyone I know and is committed to them.
     
  13. thisaway

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    When you're ready, keep me in mind! :winkie:
     
    #33 thisaway, Feb 26, 2010
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  14. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan
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    Post was based upon cost vs quality. I have a Colt Sporter ban-era lower with a M4 Colt 6920 upper.
    Think Colt USGI M4,......love it!
     
    #34 faawrenchbndr, Feb 27, 2010
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  15. Top Gun Supply is top notch! I have ordered from them in the past, got a sig p228 Zurich police trade in and a g19 OD and everyone I have ever dealt w/over their all seemed like real good people. I have seen that on their website, that seems like a real good price on a new 6920. That maybe my fall back option.

    Yesterday the person who I had talked to about the 6940 for $1400 OTD informed me that it was already sold :steamed: I feel like I maybe should have jumped on that.

    I have also found a lightly used Noveske N4 Light Low-Profile that looks nice. What what is a fair price for that $1400 or maybe $1500:dunno: The LMT for $1100 OTD is also still an option. What do you think?

    Thanks again guys
     
  16. I am currently using a LMT upper on my RRA lower. I like it.
     
  17. You can get a N4 Light Recce Upper from Ranier for $1375 w/ free lower and finish it out with a $150 Palmetto State Kit.

    That's what I did last Thursday and just came back from my first run. It was AMAZING.

    [​IMG]

    The Noveske is in a class by itself, and head and shoulders above LMT IMO...
     
  18. Constructor

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    As it states below, they started as a gov contractor and then expanded to commercial sales.

    Company Profile​
    Lewis Machine & Tool Company (LMT) was founded in 1980 to provide the US military,
    law enforcement and government agencies with high quality weapons, components, and
    modular weapon systems. Since the beginning, the LMT mission has been to meet their
    customer’s expectations of quality, price and delivery of precision machined parts,
    weapon systems, assemblies and engineering services. In their twenty-five years of
    doing business in Milan, Illinois, LMT has always been environmentally responsible, as
    well as working to become an asset of their community while providing their employees
    with a rewarding and challenging work place.
    LMT continues to serve the US military, law enforcement and government agencies, and
    has expanded to include foreign military services as well as commercial retailers. LMT’s
    engineers design and fabricate complete weapon systems, grenade launchers, and
    Monolithic Rail Platform (MRP) systems specifically for the demanding environments that
    the military and law enforcement face on a day-to-day basis whether in urban
    environments or in desert combat situations. LMT produces a full line of accessories and
    components for the commercial market complementing any M16 or AR15 type weapon.
    In response to the growing demand for quick-change barrel systems, Karl Lewis,
    President of LMT, designed the Monolithic Rail Platform. The MRP is a one-piece
    lightweight upper receiver with an integral forend. Mil-Std 1913 rails run from front to the
    forend on each of the four sides. The MRP comes in two different lengths, one
    traditional rifle and the other for Close Quarter Battle (CQB). With four rails, the MRP
    offers plenty of places for accessories such as optics and lights.
    Lewis Machine & Tool Company recently qualified as a 2005 GSA supplier. As a US
    Government Services Administration (GSA) qualified vendor, LMT products are available
    to over 300,000 Federal users worldwide.
    Lewis Machine & Tool Company has also been recognized on several levels for their
    adherence to quality engineering and excellence in business. LMT is the recipient of the
    Illinois Quad City Small Business Government Procurement Award for Excellence in
    State and Federal Government Procurement. Other awards include the United States
    Army Armament, Munitions and Chemical Command Award for Contractor Excellence of
    Loyal Support and Contributions to the Readiness of the US Armed Forces for the period
    of October 1, 1991 through September 30, 1992 and the US Army Material Command
    for Outstanding Achievement in Value Engineering in 1994 and the Committee of Small​
    Arms Producers (CSAP) for the period of April 1997 through February 2001.
     
  19. sugarcreek

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    ...dealer price for LMT piston defender 2000 is like 1450 bucks...

    Got a friend?
     
  20. And Noveske is owned by Chuck Norris. And Trijicon is owned by Jesus.
     
    #40 KalashniKEV, Feb 27, 2010
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