close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

List of federally prohibited places for carry

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by John Rambo, Dec 2, 2011.


  1. John Rambo

    John Rambo
    Expand Collapse
    Raven

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    12,745
    820
    Location:
    Tampa, Fl.
    Discussing places that you can't carry a gun here with my brother. It started with him saying that carrying at the gun show is illegal and pretty much any gathering of people is illegal. I see nothing in 790 stating as such. However it occured to me that it may be a federal law. Any insight on this?
     

    Wanna kill these ads? We can help!
  2. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock
    Expand Collapse
    Scouts Out
    CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    23,791
    182
    Huh? If it's a federal facility, read federal employees go there regularly to perform duties, then it's illegal federally. I doubt very seriously your gun show is anything like that.

    Florida, dunno. Federally, I'd be willing to bet there's nothing restricting it.
     

  3. xmanhockey7

    xmanhockey7
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    2,287
    68
    Location:
    Michigan
    Tell him to provide cite for the law he is referencing.
     
  4. Patchman

    Patchman
    Expand Collapse
    Florist

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    16,987
    2,226
    Location:
    Land of Flora, Fauna & Merriweather
    Don't confuse what's prohibited by Federal law (ie: carrying in Federal courts & buildings, etc...) with what's prohibited by state/local laws (ie: carrying on public school grounds, etc...) with what a private property owner can deny (ie: carrying at a commercial gun shows).
     
  5. poodleplumber

    poodleplumber
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2009
    1,503
    112
    Gun shows usually exclude carry of loaded firearms as a matter of policy, not as a matter of law. "Any gathering" is far too broad, and is not contained in the Florida or Federal law. Federal law covers federal buildings and Florida law is very specific to bars, schools and school events, jails and police stations. Gathering places like theaters, parks, and concerts never come up in Florida or Federal law. Some other states (NC IIRC) have provisions prohibiting carry wherever admission is charged, so his generalization is quite a bit closer to the mark in those jurisdictions.
     
  6. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster
    Expand Collapse
    Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    17,746
    540
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    Can't say that I find fault with the gun show operators. People have accidents with guns almost as often as they do with automobiles.
     
  7. Donn57

    Donn57
    Expand Collapse
    Just me

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2006
    891
    0
    Location:
    Sunny Florida
    So why let people carry guns anywhere at all? Why are gun shows special?
     
  8. cowboy1964

    cowboy1964
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2009
    19,399
    1,933
    Location:
    U.S.A.
    Too easy to get cleared guns mixed up with loaded carried guns is my guess. Same reason some gun shops don't allow carry.
     
  9. kensteele

    kensteele
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2003
    5,379
    0
    Location:
    Leawood, KS
    Maybe not in FL but I believe there USED to be a public gathering law in GA so your friend might be getting a bit confused.

    IMO a cleared gun and a loaded gun are treated exactly the same way. Who cares whether it is cleared or not, point the weapon in a "safe" direction and do not pull the trigger if you don't intended to fire. When you pick up the weapon, always clear it and then handle it safely; shouldn't be busy trying to figure out which gun is which. IMHO
     
  10. jb1911

    jb1911
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    1,259
    26
    Proof?
     
  11. srprex

    srprex
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2010
    74
    0
    "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is my usual policy on where I carry....so that's most places...unless they have metal detectors.
    I don't understand the prohibition at gun shows either. I have yet to pick up the paper and see an article where people were shot....either accidently or on purpose even at a gun range where everyone is packing and shooting, reloading, etc. Have you? So what's the problem? If I want to destroy someone at a gun show....what would keep me from bringing in a few 12 gauge shells...pick up an 870 and blast away? And, a gathering of people.....that could be Walmart! And aren't the same people that frequent a mall....going to the post office? All these prohibited places (workplace, schools, etc.) betray an anti-2A bias.....it is the will and desire of the bad guy intent on doing evil that is the threat...not law-abiding citizens, armed to defend themselves! Disarming the public only makes the public vulnerable and unprotected.
     
  12. failsafe

    failsafe
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2003
    3,044
    21
    Location:
    Missouri
    IF, thats a big IF, you have a concealed license, have a pistol out of sight on your person...More power to you at the GunShow's..But don't be taking it out and trying to find a holster for it..As far as other weapon's in clear sight, have them checked at the door and zip tied or such...
    I quit going to GS's, just too many inexperienced people handling firearms..That along with no good buy's and a cover charge that border's on ridiculous....Nope...
     
    #12 failsafe, Dec 3, 2011
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2011
  13. Spiffums

    Spiffums
    Expand Collapse
    I.C.P.

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2006
    9,348
    30
    Some states have a prohibition on carrying where people gather. There was a big sign here about no loaded guns at the gun show and they pointed out this included carry permits.
     
  14. slims00ls1z28

    slims00ls1z28
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2010
    235
    0
    Location:
    TN
    True but I can't count the number of times I've seen that violated by people who haven't the first clue about what they are doing or any of the cardinal sins. Just go to a show and watch people, count how many times you see the first thing someone do is wrap their finger around the trigger when one is handed to them, how many people get "lasered" with the muzzle of a weapon, etc. If I don't know your level of familiarity with a weapon I'd be nervous around you handling a weapon that I don't personally know to be unloaded too. I don't blame gunshows for their policies, but fully understand why they are in place, there's alot more going on there than a gunstore where every dealer has to hand you the weapon vs many just sitting on tables. The local gunstores I frequent don't have a no carry inside the store, just a no handling policy, if it's loaded it stays on your side, want to see if your gun fits a certain holster, here is one just like it I know to be unloaded to test fit with.

    As far as federal laws go the only places I thought were federal were schools and any federal properties, everything esle was state decided.
     
  15. SpectreRider

    SpectreRider
    Expand Collapse
    Armed Citizen

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2009
    939
    0
    Location:
    SoFla... want to move to America.
    John Rambo- Just go look in your copy of Gutmacher.
    Florida Firearms Law, Use and Ownership by Jon H. Gutmacher is the must have book for everyone who CC's in FL. The Federal law section would answer your question.
    BTW, a gun show is not a federally prohibited place.
     
  16. Shadyscott69

    Shadyscott69
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2010
    3,971
    7
    Location:
    Lexington, SC
    I think you are being sarcastic. At least I hope so. We both know your statement is nowhere close to accurate. Don't we? :dunno:
     
  17. redbaron007

    redbaron007
    Expand Collapse
    Some Dude
    Lifetime Member
    1. The Outpost Lounge

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2009
    7,963
    43
    Location:
    SWMO
    After attending a gun show today, I can see why they want the weapons ziptied. I watched the people just sweep and point the guns everywhere and at everyone. Not that advocate the banning of carrying them, but from a safety standpoint, I can understand. Another reason why I only go once a year.

    IIRC, there is no Fed law preventing carrying in gun shows, nor a state law.

    :wavey:

    red
     
    #17 redbaron007, Dec 3, 2011
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2011
  18. Mr. Blandings

    Mr. Blandings
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2001
    938
    0
    Location:
    Florida
  19. kensteele

    kensteele
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2003
    5,379
    0
    Location:
    Leawood, KS

    I wouldn't know; haven't been back to a gunshow in years since I turned to see a guy pointing a rifle directly at me, I guess he was "sighting" in the weapon before buying it like some sort of inspection. Aiming it up at the ceiling is one thing but shouldering the weapon and aiming it across the room at me is stupid.