[/SLIGHTRANTON] I've dual booted 'em all I think. My first encounter was Red Hat 5-6 years ago, I still have a HUGE reference manual and access it frequently. I re-furbished a new box with XP and Ubuntu and have spent the majority of my time tweaking 8.10 and searching for CL fixes for hardware conflicts and substitutes for flash/internet/video/sound plugins. While I don't have the expertise to compile my own packages or structure new programs to accomplish my goals, I do have enough sense to follow directions and troubleshoot. What I don't know is if I am the only one spending hours hacking around in the dark trying to bring a promising OS into reality. After a weeks of configuring and researching (this time around) all I can really say is that I have a better understanding to why it won't replace OS X or Windows. I can accept this, but I can't help to feel a sense of disappointment. I'm fully aware that, "open source" and, "free" are both priceless and subjective but for the love of Dog why hasn't it improved much in 6 years? Has the community collapsed or are we trying to make it more difficult than it needs to be? I type this under Ubuntu/Firefox and a patiently update/research/yell at the monitor and hope that someday there will be a Distro that will combine stability, usability and a half way decent library of codecs that isn't stumped by 2001 technology. [/SLIGHTRANTOFF] PS. I don't blame hardware.