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Limited 10 videos in Anchorage Alaska

Discussion in 'General Competition' started by Alaskapopo, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. Alaskapopo

    Alaskapopo NRA ENDOWMENT

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    I used my duty gear and shot limited 10.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egNyF4ajToM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Pbm7PL-rU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Qy3KnPtBY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWR7YkGdOP8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YsqFCbHHK0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpkrDp5DFwY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT_qQTHEMd8

    I paid to shoot the classifier stage 2 extra times once in limited and once as single stack.
    I have been practicing more lately with my pistols and it paid off. I got 5th in the match and was only beat by 2 open shooters and 2 A class shooters one in limited 10 and one in production. I am B class in Limited 10.
    Pat
     
  2. saltydog452

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    Thanks for your post.

    You wouldn't just happen to know a guy whose first name is
    Ken would you?

    salty
     


  3. Alaskapopo

    Alaskapopo NRA ENDOWMENT

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    Yes sir.
    Pat
     
  4. marvin

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    did you shoot the classifiers with the flashlight on your guns?
     
  5. Alaskapopo

    Alaskapopo NRA ENDOWMENT

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    Yep it won't fit in my holster without it on.
    Pat
     
  6. Hoser

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    Open division.
     
  7. marvin

    marvin sci-fi nut

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    yep..
     
  8. Alaskapopo

    Alaskapopo NRA ENDOWMENT

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    Oh well the point of this match was to practice up for the LEO shoot I am going to this week end.
    Pat
     
  9. Hoser

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    You do realize why shooting with the flashlight bumps you to Open?
     
  10. Alaskapopo

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    Yes its one of USPSA more stupid rules. Its considered a barrel weight. If USPSA wants to attract more cops and military members they need to have a duty gun class.
    Pat
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2010
  11. Colorado4Wheel

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    Or you could take the light off the gun or get a gaming gun like the rest of us.
     
  12. Alaskapopo

    Alaskapopo NRA ENDOWMENT

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    That would not do me much good for trying to get some good trigger time on with the gun I am most likely to need when the chips are down.

    Besides I do have a gaming guns for Limited class a STI Edge. I also shoot the Wilson without a light. But the point of me using my duty gear in this match was to get ready for a LEO match I am shooting this weekend. Its a USPSA STYLE match where we use our duty gear.

    What I said about USPSA also applies to IDPA. Both sports need to grow and many officers and military folks use weapon lights on their duty pistols. Both sports are losing potential shooters by having such backwards poorly thought out rules. A weapon light is not equal to a compensator or an optic. It does not belong in open.

    Anyway I am not going to get into a pissing match about this. I had a good time at the match and did well.
    Pat
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2010
  13. Colorado4Wheel

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    Officers need to attend matchs and shoot. It would serve them well to just show up and shoot and not worry about getting "bumped" into open. Or just shoot with a limited gun if you don't want that to happen. We shoot with a group of police regularly. None of them complain about shooting a "production gun" or their "limited gun". They just show up and shoot. Our last match was won by a cop shooting his limited gun. Never once do I hear them complain about these trival things. If you just want to practice in a match then shoot the gun with the light in Open. It's silly to try and make a national program into a Police Training program. Thats not what they are designed to do.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2010
  14. Alaskapopo

    Alaskapopo NRA ENDOWMENT

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    It was a club match so I am not complaining and I was not bumped to open. Also a match is not training rather its a skills test. If you think of it as training you will do stupid stuff on the street. What is stupid is to place a stock single stack 10 round gun into open because it has a 4 ouch weapon light attached. But that is my opinion and I am entitled to it. They could easily create a tactical class where weapon lights and lasers are allowed without the game stuff that is not practical on the street. But anyway enough is enough. :wavey:
    Your opinion has been noted.
    Pat
     
  15. Colorado4Wheel

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    I'm all for the police attending and encouraging them to shoot. I don't know why this is so hard for you to discuss. It's just a basic club/rules discussion. Nothing exactly earth changing. Sports have rules. Thats just kinda the way it is. If more cops actually shot then maybe a tactical class would make sence but in my experiance most don't bother to show up but for a few core shooters. BTW, my brother was a cop as well so it's not like I'm totally new to them. We had a local Police event recently. IDPA makes perfect sence for a tactical class. It would make rules a nightmare so I can see why they don't do it. Things are complicated enough already. We argue about little things like plastic plugs in the butt of a Glock. Lights would add a whole new dimension of things to argue about.
     
  16. Alaskapopo

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    I really don't mind being bumped to open at a club match as its all for fun. But I don't agree with the rules as they are. But its not in my power to change them. USPSA is better on this issue than IDPA. At least you can shoot in OPEN. In IDPA some clubs won't let you shoot with a light at all. My club allows me to. IDPA has rules against lights but they also have a rule allowing Cops to shoot with their Duty gear so its kind of conflicting. I just don't like rules that will push people away. I Know some are for less divisions. I am for more. I would also like to see an Open 10 class for guys with older single stack guns and for 8 shot revolvers with optics. More classes mean more people will show up to shoot with what they have. Not everyone can afford a new blaster in this economy. Also everyone likes to have a fair chance at winning. Making more divisions with relatively equal equipment makes that easier. USPSA did a very good move by creating production and single stack. In my opinion those divisions are very appealing to a lot of shooters. Maybe a tactical class like in three gun for rifles (allowing 1 optic) for handguns would be good allowing a flash light and a laser.
    Pat
     
  17. Colorado4Wheel

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    Overall I agree with you, especially on the local level. I just encoarage people to show up and shoot and not worry about their class. That always seems to fall on deaf ears. People still think as a newbie they have a chance of winning. They agonize over shooting their HK in Limited, Limited 10 or Production. In the end it doesn't matter. Just have fun and shoot.
     
  18. Alaskapopo

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    I know what you are saying but some people especially type A personalities want to win if at all possible. I like to do well. I know there are a few guys I will not beat at least not until I get a lot more dedication and am willing to work as hard as they do. They are our clubs A class (USPSA) and Master class shooters in IDPA. I usually come in between 4th and 6th place because these guys are just plain better and even as I get better so do they. I don't mind losing when someone outshoots me or out thinks me on a stage. I would hate to lose because I got bumped to open because of some rule that made me have to compete against guys with faster guns (move bullets less recoil and optics) than mine.
    Pat
     
  19. Colorado4Wheel

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    It's just funny to see people agonize over "Limited, vs Limited 10, vs production" and they have never shot a match before. All the people with experiance are saying "just be safe" and they respond with "what class do I shoot in"?
     
  20. marvin

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    when i shoot at club matchs i shoot limited, and all i care about is the overall standings. i want to be the top overall and thats what i shoot for, if i come in 2nd place and i lose to an open shooter is still lost.( i should point out that i don't win much any more. and i've been known to lose to production shooters:crying:)