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lightwieght 308 AR... need recommendations please

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by Galveston Wader, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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    I guess I neglected to read the 5th paragraph. I have a pretty short attention span for reading. My comment was more toward BB when he said a light weight 7.62 didn't exist.

    PredadAR- 7.75lb
    Leupold ultralight 3-9x33 - 0.61lb
    DNZ 1piece picatinny mount - 0.5lb
    PMAG loaded with 150gr hunting ammo- 1.5lb

    That puts you just over 10lb for a loaded and scoped semi auto .308 with a little more scope than the OP wanted.


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  2. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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  3. mgs

    mgs Always Carrying Millennium Member

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    Pressure is important but so is rearward bolt thrust. You need more diameter (larger case head)/larger bolt lugs and bolt mass to control all that. Bigger round = bigger action because the build materials are the same. Compare the Thompson Contender and Encore frames for example. One can handle .308 and the other can not.
     
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  4. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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    I understand that, go look at the post i quoted. My post was more or less saying that the pressure had nothing to do with the size of the rifle, and that 60,000psi is not a super high pressure as far as center fire rifles are concerned.


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  5. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    That's very doable! GIs carried 10 pound Garands all over the planet in WWII.
    My preferred long range bolt gun is just under 11 pounds.
    My M1A is right at 13

    A darn good padded sling will make a 10 pound rifle feel like 7
     
  6. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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    yep:wavey:

    Not to mention the PredatAR is plenty capable of shooting MOA or better.
     
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  7. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    Yes it is,......an old buddy of mine, a Marine trained shooter,:whistling:
    has one with super sweet S&B glass. It shoots like a "frickin laser"
     
  8. Gunnut 45/454

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    I know the OP is deadnut set on a 308 but for the ranges he is going to be shooting mostly the .300 Blk fits perfectly! But hey if he want to go spend that kind of cash and lug a 10lb rifle around go ahead! Ammo is about the same price range for both if you don't reload.:supergrin:
     
  9. Travclem

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    .308 is a lot easier to find right now. 300AAC hasn't been out long enough to hit the Walmarts or small town feed stores. Any able bodied person should have no problems carrying a 10lb rifle. On top of that you save less than a pound by switching from the predatAR .308 to a 16" DD .300blackout (7lb 12oz. vs 7lb 1oz.) Both will be around 10lbs loaded and scoped.

    I kill hogs regularly with a 5.56 shooting 55gr ballistic tips, 64gr soft points, and 77gr OTM bullets. 5,56 would be plenty for hogs at semi close range. but the OP asked for a .308.

    There is the RRA LAR-47 that is an AR that takes ak mags and shoots 7.62x39.
     
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  10. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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  11. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

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    That is one BADASS M1A! Does that stock take care of the bedding issues? I have an M1A Supermatch but I don't shoot it much due to the required rebedding.
     
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  12. Mayhem like Me

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    Not a chance
    I read the posts a SCAR is what you want. Not an AR but it does everything you need and it battle proven.

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  13. Galveston Wader

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    Exactly.

    Thanks for all the replies everyone.
     
  14. bikerdog

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    BadA$$ M1. But that op did say light :)

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  15. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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  16. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    Good luck at finding a SCAR-17 for $2500 or less.
     
  17. WarEagle32

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    With your criteria go with the Larue. Maybe you can find one on Gunbroker and not have to wait so long.
     
  18. bigmoney890

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    If only they weren't so damn expensive!



    And another vote for the Larue. I fondle one everytime I go to my LGS and they are beautiful.
     
  19. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Not a chance
    That is right at what you can get them for new..if you have a connection...


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  20. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    Cheaper than a SCAR! :tongueout: