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Life of an AK

Discussion in 'The Kalashnikov Klub' started by 50 Cent, Mar 4, 2006.

  1. Ok - so I have my New WASR 10. How long do these things last before major maintenance is required. What round count should I keep my eye on? 10000 rounds?
  2. DaleGribble

    DaleGribble Sandwich!

    Mar 20, 2003
    Land of the toothless!
    What do you mean by major maintenance? Do you mean like a rebarreling or something?

    You're WASR was inexpensive and is not a collectors item, so shoot it until it melts, which will take a lot more the 10K rounds! ;f

  3. CGuns


    Jan 4, 2005
    Take care of your guns.
    Clean before and after shooting.
    If you take care of them, they will take care of you.
    I cannot stand people who do not care for their firearms.
  4. JSinAlaska


    Nov 9, 2003
    Take care of your guns.
    Clean before and after shooting.
    If you take care of them, they will take care of you.
    I cannot stand people who do not care for their firearms.

  5. expeditionx


    Jul 10, 2004
    Someone at once posted about his conversation with a Izhmash representative from Russia. Their 7.62x39 AKs are rated for a service life based on he barrel life. A barrel life of 80,000 rounds. They may service anything besides the barrel up through the end of acceptable barrel life. Minor things like a trigger component breaking will be fixed. A poster on Saiga12 forums "Shiek", once said that he has seen Saiga trigger parts malfunction around the 40,000 round level. A bolt or bolt carrier breaking is probably unlikely unless the factory has a manufacturing issue at some point.
    Global trades representative Jimmy once posted at that one of his SSR-85C AKs built on a 1.6 mm stamped receiver has endured over 100,000 rounds for a customer that shoots alot. It will hold a 6 inch group at 100 yards with russian commercial ammo even after 100,000 rounds. Schuetzenman Forum Administrator at used
    to make rifle barrels for a living. He once posted that China rated their chrome lined bore AK's for 50K rounds before replacement.
    Russian hammer forged barrels are better rated. Vepr and Saiga russian barrels should last up to 80,000 rounds.

    Romanian barrels should last at least as along as Chinese AK barrels.
    So, figure your WASR barrel to last 50,000 plus rounds. The receiver might last several times the barrel life, but rebarreling through a gun smith might cost more that just buying another WASR.
    Before you even reach 50,000 rounds on your WASR, if your trigger components break that is a simple fix ( $40 Tapco G2 trigger set ).
    A bolt or bolt carrier runs a bit more.
  7. Polo

    Polo Brave Babushka Millennium Member

    27,060 rounds w/o a clean??!! How bout just a minor lube?
    That is damned good. Keep us informed on how she does as you put more rounds in her...guys are very interested to know.

    There are people going bananas over a certain FAL going 12,000rds. w/o cleaning. I think on
  8. The-Fly

    The-Fly The Bofh

    Apr 27, 2005
    I have a Global Trades / Armory SSR-85c. Its got about 2-3k rounds through it, never a problem of course. Even though you can let an AK get super filthy and probably not have problems, i clean my AK the way i clean my AR: With loving detail and attention. Take care of a gun and it will take care of you when you need it most.
  9. Polo..
    Thanks for the interest.. no lube of any kind.. not to hijack 50 cents thread..
    I do think we are all questioning the same durable is the ak..
    My only regret is that im afraid when the wolf 7.62x39 is available again ,it wont be the old laquer style, but the new poly..thus giving me a apples to oranges test... be that as it may im still gonna shoot it till it just wont shoot anymore....
    I guess I need to say..this is a TEST!! by all means CLEAN YOUR GUNS!! any moron who would shoot over 27THOUSAND rounds without cleaning the gun and then THINK its gonna work when the chips are down and his life is on the better off dead anyways..

    i will keep ya posted...
  10. Polo

    Polo Brave Babushka Millennium Member

    Right on , Cochise...
  11. expeditionx


    Jul 10, 2004
  12. Talk about a thread from the dead..
    we are up to 33 thou now and still kickin..
    seem's like when it carbons up bad the cake will vibrate off and fall into the mag well and out the bottom..
    never tested for accuracy but so far it seems to be holding on target as it always did..
  13. Army of Juan

    Army of Juan

    Aug 29, 2002
    Cochise, that is awesome! Please keep us informed as the round count increases!
  14. CGuns


    Jan 4, 2005
  15. kf4zra

    kf4zra I miss ya Murph

    Aug 15, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    i know when we worked for a manufacturer we built one on a hesse receiver. the receiver lasted around 30k rds before it was torn apart. hesse never had a reputation as a good receiver maker. it was replaced with a ohio rapid fire version and went a good 20k more before the owner gave up the license and the receiver was chopped.

    there wasnt a whole lot of rifling left as most shooting was full auto. i personally shot it till the handguards caught fire. it finally broke a firing pin around 45k mi. only found out when we cleaned it. it still worked with a broken firing pin!

    i think you will wear the barrel out before a receiver. it took us 50k rds before it was getting worn.

    most people will never shoot one that much. that is more than half a pallet of ammo.
  16. Maintenance and an AK???

    :fred: Some where out in the middle of Squatemala there's a goat herder with a third grade education who has an AK-47 built in 1954 over he shoulder. This AK has had a bazillion rounds fired throught it. It's seen more wars than a CBS film crew. It's been in heat, cold, snow, rain and mud that a mule could get bogged down in, but it still works. And you ask "How many times has it been cleaned?" Maybe six or seven. It's owner will usually use a bootlace tied in knots and some kerosene drained from a lamp. After than it is lubicated with motor oil from an old wreck truck. The herdsman smokes another cigarette. "Americans made the best cigarettes, but the Russians make the best damn rifles", he thinks to himself. :rofl:
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2008
  17. Good one.:cool:
  18. fla2760


    Aug 12, 2006
    The AK is "Glock reliable" and can do as well in the torture tests. Not maintenance dependent.
  19. WoW!!
    the thread from the REALLY dead returns!
    took her out today when i saw it.
    the count as of today is 41 thousand 3 hundred..
    this is slow fire and bump fire..
    i have 20 or so 30 rd mags.. i mix them up and even use pre-loaded
    ones i have sitting around on occasion.
    still ticking!
    i dont take it apart..or look at anything ..i just shoot it and put it away.

    someday it will just stop...
  20. my762buzz


    Mar 21, 2007
    41,000 without a cleaning or lube and still going strong?
    That is insane, but its great to know.