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License plate readers: A useful tool for police comes with privacy concerns

Discussion in 'Civil Liberties Issues' started by 4Rules, Sep 8, 2012.

  1. 4Rules


    Mar 11, 2012
  2. 4Rules


    Mar 11, 2012
    "We used a license reader in order to identify the longitude and latitude to identify the area we believed she might be in," Fossa said.
    Cellphones emit the longitude and latitude of their location so Officer Paul McNamara used the Automated License Plate Reader to narrow down the location, he said.
    "As such, we were able to locate a young woman from Fitchburg who had traveled from her home," Fossa said. "It's a great story about technology, really."

  3. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

    May 4, 2003
    What privacy expectation do you have in public acts with a state-issued placard?

    You want a real story, delve into *private* use of this same technology.
  4. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

  5. ModGlock17


    Dec 18, 2010
    Here's a hint for ya. Watching surveillance video is the most boring thing on earth. Sometimes, I think that's what happens when you go to Hell. The Devil makes you watch surveillance video of an intersection.

    We only look at them when there's troubles.
  6. SgtScott31


    Jan 17, 2011
    Our ALR does not store tag numbers. It has helped locate stolen vehicles and vehicles associated with bad crimes or runaways. I think Facebook is capturing more information about your personal life than anything a license plate reader is going to do. It posts where you have been, places that you're likely to go to, and a multitude of things that I care not do divulge; hence why I disable most of the options on it.
  7. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

    Apr 5, 2011
    Tampa, FL
    Someone can see my license plate?

  8. glockout


    Nov 13, 2007
    Buck Creek, Mo
    I nearly always hold a finger up when I see a traffic cam.
  9. Brucev


    Jul 19, 2009
    You are correct about facebook capturing information. And one can disable the options to suit ones own preferences. Unfortunately one cannot exercise such choice with regard to the recording, etc. of license plate information indicating locations observed, etc.

    There is no reason why the police should be able to surveil law abiding citizens going about their daily activities. That sort of thing is done in old europe and england. That sort of thing is done in n. korea and other such communist countries. But, that sort of thing has absolutely no place in a free society. It has no place at all in America.
  10. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    They're not recording you on your bicycle.
  11. What's the worst a private company can do to me? Show me a personalized ad banner based on my travel routes?
  12. Foxtrotx1


    Jan 29, 2010
    Scottsdale AZ
    well, driving is a privilege not a right. If you don't want your plate read don't drive.
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2012
  13. So, freedom of travel in general is a right, yet traveling by any specific means (car, bus, subway, airplane...) is a privilege?

    Are the rest of the "freedoms" in the Constitution the same way?
  14. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Driver's License, issued by the state.
    Vehicle License plate, issued by the state.
    Roads/Streets/Highways, built by government.

    All regulated by the state.

    Don't like it? Build your own roads/highways and do as you like.

    Otherwise, drum your feet all you like, as you have no leg to stand on.

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  15. Armchair Commando

    Armchair Commando Long Range Guru

    Jan 10, 2006
    Bunker in the Midwest
    You should write built by tax payers, Government didn't build anything, tax payers money did.

    Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2012
  16. SgtScott31


    Jan 17, 2011
    It's no different than a LEO running your tag while he's traveling behind you or driving by your vehicle parked in a lot. It's a license plate on a public road (or in a public area). There's absolutely no expectation of privacy.
  17. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

  18. So you see no difference between checking tags and tracking?

    Would you mind wearing a GPS ankle bracelet every time you leave your house? It's no different than a cop seeing you on the street, according to your logic.[/QUOTE]
  19. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

  20. SgtScott31


    Jan 17, 2011

    There's obviously a difference between checking tags and tracking. Although conducting surveillance and following someone around does not require a warrant either. As the officers doing the following are going anywhere anyone else in public can go. There are no black helicopters overhead. It's simply a tool that will identify tags associated with crimes/missing persons.