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Liberty Civil Defense .45 acp

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Emmett4glock, Jun 17, 2013.


  1. Emmett4glock

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    I received some of this ammo for Father's Day. .45 auto at 78 grains, 1900 fps, 625 ft lbs. Has anyone here shot it? If so, what were your experiences? I performed a search but only one thread came up and it had no replies. Thanks for any information you can offer.
     

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  2. M 7

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    Liberty's "Civil Defense" loads, already very light in weight, tend to fragment early during penetration and penetration suffers- usually the base (which weighs makes up about 50% of the bullet's weight) makes it no more than 8-10 inches, if that.

    This image (found here- http://libertyammunition.com/liberty-ammo-media/images/ ) is of the .45 ACP 78gr JHP that you have fired into bare gelatin-

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    and confirms the behavior of the design.

    This test also shows more of the same sort of behavior-

    http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2013/02/liberty-ammunition-halo-point-9mm-clear.html

    It's is interesting stuff, but not something that I'd ever recommend for serious SD use. It's your bacon on the line, so the decision is ultimately yours. Good luck.
     

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  3. Zombie Steve

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    I imagine sectional density to be somewhere on par with a dime.
     
  4. WinterWizard

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    Pure garbage.
     
  5. Zombie Steve

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    Oh, I don't know... the flash I'd expect might just rival the next Pink Floyd laser show coming to a soon-to-be-condemned civic auditorium near you.
     
  6. Zombie Steve

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    Guess I shouldn't jump to conclusions. I've always preferred heavy for caliber bullets, and never read too much into foot / pounds of energy calculations.

    I'll shut up now, as I've never tried these.
     
  7. Emmett4glock

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    M 7, thanks for the informative links.

    Zombie Steve, this cracked me up. :rofl:

    WinterWizard, "Pure garbage" nice oxymoron. :supergrin:

    I'll see how they work on water filled containers.
     
    #7 Emmett4glock, Jun 18, 2013
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  8. M 7

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    I agree with Emmett.

    That is pretty darned funny!

    It is also very close to being the case. :)