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Liberal Pro-Gun Group

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by frizz, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. tantrix

    tantrix J'aimeLouisiane

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    The same thing Romney did for that gun-utopia called MA.

    New to the Libertarian party or not, he still has more conservative views than ANY Republican that was running, with the exception of Ron Paul.
     
  2. G36's Rule

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    Gary Johnson just another anti-nuke hippy.

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  3. tantrix

    tantrix J'aimeLouisiane

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    Hey, you do what you gotta do to preserve the status quo...I'm gonna opt-out of that this time.
     
  4. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    G36 - whatcha got against peace?
     
  5. nursetim

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    What is the differance between compromise and appeasement?
     
  6. G36's Rule

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    That is a nuclear disarmament symbol.

    :whistling:
     
  7. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

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    That is funny because Ron Paul is pro life, wants to strengthen US borders and not give Amnesty, and does not want same sex marriage, and wants the pot issues to be left up to the states.

    If you support Gary Johnson, you support Amnesty for illegals, Federal laws legalizing drugs and prostitution, which will mean anyone in prison for those charges will be released. You would also support abortion and same sex marriage, and will be AGAINST the death penality.

    Does that sound conservative to you? Does anyone visit the candidates website or read up on them before casting their vote anymore?
     
  8. tantrix

    tantrix J'aimeLouisiane

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    I know all of that. I actually agree with Gary Johnson more than I agree with Ron Paul.
     
  9. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

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    Ok, I can respect that.

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    Personally for me I need a candidate that is not an idealogue stuck on the party platform. I need a Libertarian that isn't fixated on legalizing everything and shutting down the Federal Government. I need a Republican that isn't focused on forcing religious value on the people and letting large companies run amok. I guess I need a democrat that is willing give away everything for free, to make people work for there government benefits, to no bow down to fringe groups and unions, and to give business a chance.
     
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    tantrix J'aimeLouisiane

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    This is pretty much the one I've been voting for since '04.

    The Republicans and Democrats are too worried about arguing and pissing on each other's shoes to get anything done, so I'm done with both of them.
     
  11. MadCityJack

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    Old School flattery!
     
  12. Fox

    Fox Varmit Control

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    There is nothing peaceful about a movement that supported communist forces in Vietnam and Latin America.

    Che Guevarra was a Stalinist thug, not Ghandi.
     
  13. Fox

    Fox Varmit Control

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    I vote for pro-gun Republicans. If they're pro-gun, then they're usually going to be good on other issues.
     
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    If the above-corrected statement doesn't apply to you, then you are 1) a partisan voter and/or 2) not a one-issue voter.

    If guns are truly most important to you, then the letter after the name shouldn't matter, exactly like the NRA views it.
     
  15. Chris Brines

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    I know there are democrat voting types aka liberals aka Obama supporters who are pro gun....but to me it is kinda hard to imagine because it goes against pretty much everything that makes a liberal, a liberal. Which to me, no offense to anyone, this is just how I see it, a liberal is by definition, a hypocrite. Of course you won't find that definition on dictionary.com or something like that, it will say "a person with the ideologies that allows the greatest amount of individual liberty", or something along those lines.

    Which if you stop and think about it, the hippies back in the 60's were the libs of that time, and they were all about free spiritidness. But liberals of today seem to have gone full circle, from embracing liberty to asserting the need for "a nanny state". Liberals today seem to think the federal government should get involved in literally everything, and that a "ban" can fix any problem.

    I'll go and read the article now, I just wanted to say what I thought of the phrase "pro gun liberal" before I did. Glad some liberals are pro gun, but I still don't get how they are pro gun but have leftist views on pretty much everything else. But hey I am not criticizing anyone, to each their own, I am more than happy that there are leftists out there who embrace the 2nd Amendment.
     
  16. WarCry

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    The problem is, you're using the political-right's definition of a liberal.

    Liberal means that you're in the "live and let live" category. The reason guns come into it is because some see it as a way to not "live and let live" but rather "make you do what I want." I disagree with that view, but it's what a lot see.

    Gay rights. Right to choose. These are things that LIBERALS are saying the government should stay out of, while the CONSERVATIVE, small-government types are trying to legislate away. And, yes, liberals do believe in social programs to help those who need help. But the GOAL (granted, it's a failing system right not) isn't to make people dependent on the government, it's to give a safety net until they get back on their feet.

    For MOST people - politicians or not, liberal or conservative - guns just ARE NOT that big of an issue. If all else was equal, that might be the deciding vote. Obviously there's not going to be that many that agree with me on this point, since this is a GUN FORUM, but the truth is, it's a pretty fringe issue that doesn't enter into most peoples thoughts when voting.


    Anyone wants some political pointers? Here it is:

    For those on the RIGHT: Change your platform to support marriage equality and support the legalization (and regulation, like alcohol) of marijuana.

    For those on the LEFT: Support programs like drug-screenings for welfare and ID requirements for voting (and make non-drivers' license IDs free).

    Those changes to party platforms would generate MASSIVE amounts of cross-over voting.
     
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    Please, they are not liberals. They prefer to be called progressives. Here I'll use it in a sentence. Obummer and his socialist progressives want to ban all firearms to facilitate their progression to communism. How's that?
     
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    mollyzero Free Thinker

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    Always nice to find a few similar souls around...i smiled when i saw the quote
     
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    You are 100 per cent right Sir.
     
  20. frank4570

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    The people in charge do not want crossover voting. They want blind loyalty as a result of wedge issues. "YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE IF THE OTHER GUY GETS IN HE IS GOING TO BLAH BLAH BLAH." We vote for the guy to protect our issue, then forget about what he is really doing once he gets in. And that is the way they want it.
    We are being played. And it isn't going to change.