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Let's write a revised Moral Code.

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by Comrade Bork, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Comrade Bork

    Comrade Bork

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    Morality is like the US Dollar. :dunno:

    It has value because we all agree that it has value. :wavey:

    If we did not agree that it has value, it would only be not-terribly-good toilet paper.

    Morality does not have to be "backed" by anything but our mutual agreement that it works and we all agree to abide by it.

    And punish those who do not abide by it. :steamed:
     
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  2. Comrade Bork

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    "Religion" was invented to provide political power and wealth to the shamans.

    It is the only reason "Religion" exists.

    "Religion" has nothing to do with "God".

    Unless, of course, you can prove "God" actually exists? :dunno:
     


  3. happyguy

    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

    That is a narrow view of spirituality considering religion exists in many forms in every corner of the world.

    Regards,
    Comrade Happyguy :)
     
  4. Comrade Bork

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    The fact that spirituality is so widespread is simply because we have been actively conditioned to accept it as fact when it is not fact; it is merely opinion. :upeyes:

    A "widespread opinion" still does not make the opinion fact. :faint:

    Always has been, is now, and forevermore shall be, opinion.

    Amen. :dunno:
     
  5. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    From two of our greatest modern philosophers, the foundation of a true morality:

    Hey, hey, hey — don't be mean. We don't have to be mean. 'Cause, remember: no matter where you go... there you are.

    and

    Be nice until it's time to not be nice.
     
  6. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    Yeah, that works fine until you realize how many people there are who don't have the same definition of "nice" as you do.

    Like the person, who stabs you in the heart, because he decided the way you looked at him, wasn't "nice".

    Without a standard, everything is relative, especially morality and ethics.
     
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  7. Comrade Bork

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    Offensive violence is immoral.

    Defensive violence is moral.

    If someone initiates violence and stabs you in the heart, (a) you should have been able to defend youself and prevent it, or (b) if you are dead, we will execute him as a murderer.

    Morality upheld. :supergrin:

    Of course, still sucks for you!
     
  8. Glock36shooter

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    If someone stabs you in the heart... turn to them your other heart... Oh.. wait... that one won't work.

    Hot Bi-Girl action and fried baby necks for all my men then!
     
  9. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    By what rules will you execute him as a murderer?
     
  10. Comrade Bork

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    He who takes a life, not in self defense, forfeits his own life.

    He who actually springs the trap on the gallows, throws the switch on the electric chair, pulls the trigger(s) on the firing squad, what have you, is not guilty of murder.

    Any more than the rope, the chair, the rifles, are themselves guilty of murder.
     
  11. Tilley

    Tilley Man of Steel

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    Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Roadhouse...you sir, have excellent taste in cinemas classics. :whistling:
     
  12. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    But we do have a standard. Be nice. Nice, like murder, is a function of the defining society.

    I think most would agree that if someone is trying to stab you in the heart, it's time to not be nice.
     
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  13. Sarge1400

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    Good catch(es)!
     
  14. Animal Mother

    Animal Mother Not Enough Gun

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    1 for 2, though Fast Times does contain much great wisdom, the first quote is from Physicist/Neurosurgeon/Rock Star Buckaroo Banzai.
     
  15. dave109

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    From what I've seen from you, you like to instigate anger and arguments. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously on the subject of morality? :rofl:

    Now spew forth your anger and hatred in your reply to my post, and prove me correct :rofl:
     
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  16. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    But, where do you find these rules?
     
  17. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    So you think that "nice" is an objective standard that everyone can agree on?
     
  18. Comrade Bork

    Comrade Bork

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    Instigate Arguments? Yes.

    Instigate Anger? Not so much.

    I was trying to point out that "morality" based on the 1st five Commandments, is nothing more than useless claptrap designed to keep us all subservient to the shamans.

    Am I angry about 10,000 + years of mind control manipulation by the shamans that continues to this day?

    You betcherass. :steamed:
     
  19. Comrade Bork

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    My own observations. :dunno:
     
  20. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Moral relativity.