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Let Teachers Carry Arms, Ban Gun-Free Zones to Halt Mass Shootings

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Ruble Noon, Dec 17, 2012.


  1. Ruble Noon

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    I saw him on CNN this morning. He is a smart guy but like a lot of academics he sometimes has difficulty when debating. Soledad O'Brien proved again that she is a tool during that discussion. She was all emotion and brought no substance to the table and even so, Lott had a hard time.

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    Watching CNN will rot your brain.
     
  4. beforeobamabans

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    While this is common sense and gets to the root of the problem (better security at the site), it has already been rejected out of hand by every single person on the left I've seen in three days of discussion. It's a "non-starter". Since they're in the driver's seat on this, it ain't gonna happen. That's why I've already jumped to professional armed security funded by conservatives agreeing to higher property taxes.

    Selling this tact dodges the whole gun control issue.
     
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    I agree with allowing teachers to conceal carry while in school.
     
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    amazing today we need armed guards in school.
     
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    Hmmm, I guess that explains a lot. CNN and Bourbon...
    Bad genetics is probably in play as well.

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    Put a donut shop in the lobby of each school and the cops will be there 24/7.
     
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    Not really. When the state forces me to deliver my child to their instruction and care, they assume responsibility for their security. What occurred in Newtown was a total failure (and negligence) of the state's responsibility to protect those children. It was their responsibility to do whatever they thought necessary based on their local conditions. They have been proven negligent and should be sued to high heavens by every surviving relative. That would result in the best lesson of all. After the state coughs up millions for their negligence, you will see armed guards in every school.
     
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    Why?

    In our State schools that have "special" students have to have staff members who are certified in physical intervention techniques that include taking the student to the ground and controlling them with minimum chance of injury. They do this to protect the student, the other students and staff and themselves.

    To me it is surprising that we take precautions with special training, including physical contact, to keep a kid from getting headbutted, but we don't have anyone trained to prevent a student getting shot
     
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    Even more amazing is that we'll put armed guards on a stack of gold, but have a **** fit if someone suggests guarding our children from a psychopath.
     
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    Thats what I say. Actually what I say is, "When a killer comes for your kids, would you rather have Sarah Brady there? Or Ted Nugent?"
     
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    Some crazy guy named Ron Paul introduced legislation to repeal Gun Free Zone laws way back in 2011. So glad he didn't become President or anything important like that. /sarcasm

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/9524-ron-paul-introduced-pro-gun-legislation

     
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    How many teachers would actually do this if they were allowed? .0000001%

    We need armed security in plain clothes.


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    Wow, you're still here? I guess I give you kudos for sticking around so long even though you're always wrong about everything (sorta like the anti-gun lobby).
     
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    OK, Ill go again



    This is a perfect example of why YOU turned more people away from Ron Paul than you ever attracted.

    While I thank you for any damage you may have done to the campaign of the of that demented gremlin but you're interjecting him into every thread is surely a sign of an unstable fixation.

    This is not the time or place for you to blow the trumpet of some one who got....how many electoral college votes was it?

    Now go to your room and stare at the Ron Paul poster above your bed.
     
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    Yeah he was crazy. Just look at how many bills he got passed in his long and mediocre career while sucking millions out of the treasury and later, the college kid crowd.

    He certainly turned proposing somewhat popular but futile causes into a wealth builder for him, his family and friends.



    But really. Arming teachers is only one layer among many that would be needed to prevent this sort of tragedy again.

    1. Simple steel door bars that would lock classroom doors from the inside.

    2. Armed guards, dedicated, trained in hostage rescue, negotiation, CQB and layered physical security.

    3. Layered physical security.