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LEOSA Retirement Quals

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by unit 900, Aug 25, 2010.

  1. unit 900

    unit 900

    Sep 3, 2000
    Baltimore, Md
    I didn't want to hijack the LEOSA carry thread, but I'm curious about qualifications in other states. In Maryland, you qualify in a class of firearm; semi or revolver. Unfortunately, there isn't the practical option of doing both, given time constraints by agencies and the Training Commission. Once you qualify in a class, you can carry any firearm in that class. I can qual with a Glock 19 and carry a Seecamp .32 if I choose. Is that the norm elsewhere, or are you limited to the weapon you qualify with?
  2. Hack

    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

    By class in Kansas.

  3. Garrett Smith

    Garrett Smith

    Oct 23, 2005
    No class requirement in Missouri. We qualify with any handgun and then can carry any handgun.
  4. awoodpd13


    Aug 14, 2009
    By class in Georgia...
  5. ChiefWPD


    Dec 25, 2004
    By class in MA. Once qualified with either (or both) a semi-auto pistol and a revolver you can carry whichever model you wish.
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2010
  6. My old department issues a "gun card" with the make, model ,calibere ,and serial number of said weapon, only thing you can carry on the retired creds
  7. Bruce M

    Bruce M

    Jan 3, 2010
    S FL
    I am closer to retirement than to the beginning. Even before LEOSA I was always pretty afraid of being the guy who arrested a retired officer for illegal carry - afraid for instance someday I would start yelling for help on the radio and there might be a whole lot of silence...

    I believe here(Fl) that a qualification card for a gun would allow anything to be carried, but I will try to confirm that tomorrow.


    Jun 11, 2002
    New Mexico & Michigan
    In Arizona you can qual with revolver and auto and then carry anything. The problem I ahve is I live in AZ and am retired from New Mexico and my old department just has a problem with the fact that I don't have to follow their rules for retirees.
  9. down here in aa county we qual at the dept rqange. i always qual with both cause i can. my card issued by the dept says both soi i have no problem. the training comm is getting lazy thats why they only let you qual with one cause its easier for them.
  10. dmacker


    May 22, 2004
    Northeast Ohio
    Ohio requires you qualify with either or both classes of firearm you wish to carry.
    It's not firearm specific.
    The new OPOTA qualification course is 22 rounds of fire on multiple targets while you are moving through different stages and distances.
    I think it's a pretty darn good course of fire.
  11. Jim


    Jan 23, 2000
    By class; Revolver or Auto or both (if you qual w/both)
  12. isp2605


    Oct 2, 2002
    Did mine today.
    The website for IL which also includes course of fire.
  13. 25pd


    Mar 8, 2007
    In PA one can qualify with a revolver and carry any revolver or qualify w/ semiauto pistol and carry any make , model pistol eg{ qualify w/ glock 9mm and now able to carry a 380, 9mm, 10 mm 40 s& w , 45 acp semiauto pistol)
  14. billinaz


    Jun 12, 2001
    Goodyear,AZ USA
    I dont see how they can restrict you.

    If you qualify annually according to the state standard then you areoperating in the federal act...... which isnt that restrictive. It can be any pistol, and any ammunition that is not prohibited by federal law.
  15. VA27


    Mar 23, 2002
    I've got a couple of retired officers from California living here. They call me up, bring their paperwork from their agency and their guns and I qual them on their course and sign the paperwork. I do it on duty and get credit for FTO time on my reports for it. They bring revolvers and semis and we make a morning of it. Then they buy me lunch.

    God, how I love living in a rural area!
  16. KentuckyPatriot

    KentuckyPatriot Photojournalist

    Aug 30, 2010
    Kentucky restrictions on revolver or auto...if it shoots you can carry it assuming you can put 11 rounds out of 20 in a B21 at 7 yards...oh, and any CCDW Instructor or Instructor-Trainer can sing your qualification sheet.

    Oh, can go to Richmond, KY a few stated times of the year and have the DOCJT do the quals...but why?
  17. In Calif., it is typically up to the agency you retired from. In my case, it is the same as the CCW course; 30 rds from 25 yds in to about 2 yds for each gun you wish to carry. Good for a year. This also applies to the Title 18, USC Sect 924B card for interstate carry.
  18. Steve in PA

    Steve in PA

    Mar 1, 2000
    In PA, MPOETC/PSP says that I, as the instructor must send in the log sheet showing every firearm you want to qualify with, even though this is in direct conflict with LEOSA.

    LEOSA says same "type", not specific firearm.

    I've qualified several people and have told them the same thing; if you qualified with a semi-auto, then according to LEOSA you are good to carry any semi-auto. If you qualify with a revolver, same thing.
  19. fla2760


    Aug 12, 2006
    In FL the qualification is by class, semi-auto and or revolver, I qualify with both my Glock27 and Smith 642. The serial numbers of the weapons are recorded on the part of the form that goes to FDLE. I believe but am not certain that you must carry the same weapons you qualified with under LEOSA. Input on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
  20. ultra45


    Mar 26, 2008
    Sorry, but your dept is dead wrong. They (your dept) can't usurp federal law, which LEOSA states type (semi auto or revolver) and makes no mention it has to be a specific gun. Departments doing so are violating the law.