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LED upgrades stinger, SL20X

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by faceplant, Jan 1, 2010.


  1. faceplant

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    For my FF or LEO brothers who may have these lights.

    I purchased and recieved the Terralux led upgrades for my Stinger and SL20X.
    Very simple install for both and reasonably priced.

    Made the stinger very bright. 220 lumen claimed with a two hour burn time.

    The SL20X is about the same brightness. I have heard a shorter throw, but is a white light and if the advertised 6hr burn time is accurate is a real improvement.

    I am testing the burn time now and will report back.

    I purchased from this EBAY seller with very fast shipping.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/TERRALUX-STREAM...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad5b0cf9b
     

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  2. imaguy3

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    Don't drop your light too much. I've had the upgrade for hte stinger for about a year now. 6mths ago one of the pins broke off the back, they replaced it under warranty. Then last night it was acting up so I took off the bezel to check out why, and the little dome glued on top of the led came off... It still works, but has more side throw then it did before. I'm going to shoot them an email and see about getting this oen replaced too... :-\ I'm getting kind of dissapointed... Granted I'm a clutz and drop my light as least twice a week, usually b/c I'm screwing around and throwing it around though ;-) so ymmv...
     

  3. SPDSNYPR

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    Zippy's Friend.

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    I have a terralux LED upgrade for my Stinger. Within a few months the dome on the LED came off. It took them several months to send me an upgrade after I called them about it. I had to send them many nasty e-mails to get them to finally send me one. The second one's beam is starting to degrade, and I fear the same thing is happening again. And I almost never drop my light. The LED light is bright, but not particularly durable. And their CS sucks donkey balls. I'll keep using this until it fails, but just keep the durability thing in the back of your mind.
     
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    Dang that sucks about the CS. I have one for my Stinger. So far so good. The factory Singer LED is hard to beat for their CS.. Had issues with mine and they rebuilt it to new no questions asked.
     
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    Also, didn't know they made a model for the SL. Good light. Love mine. May have to check that out.
     
  6. imaguy3

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    I didnt' go through terralux so I can't comment on the customer service... however the first time mine broke I sent it to the guy I got it from "Monstertorch" http://monstertorch.com/ and I had a new one within a week...

    I sent him an email today, I hope it's like last time and not an issue...
     
  7. faceplant

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    Thanks for the input. Sorry if I posted something that is not up to field use or may be late in posting. Our safety is #1 for me. I have been looking for a upgrade for the SL20 for a long time and I hoped it brought these lights out of retirement. As a FF my duty is not as tough as EDC carrry for COPS. I hope these lights work. I hate to see $300 (now $400 worth of light retired again.(
     
  8. imaguy3

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    I think it'll definately bring the light out of retirement for you, at least for around the house or truck. I found these about this time last year and have since broken two upgrades...so I'm starting to wonder if my recommendation was premature, sorry guys :dunno:... it seemed solid when I got it...

    This last failure though my light still works, I just lost that little glass dome that's attached to the LED itself.. I'm thinking that is Cree's fault since they are the manufacturer of the LED unit (all Terralux does is use Cree's led's in making the conversion).

    Granted I throw my light around more than I should (sometimes when I'm bored I flip it around in my hand) as a result, my light prolly hits the ground more than most others too... I figure both my failures are due to numerous falls on the pavement (had it fall two different times from at least 10', was on a second level balcony)... and it worked right after I picked it up (just failed after a few more drops)... I think it's just the amount of shock mine gets (my bezel and tailcap are almost serrated from the chunks taken out of them)...

    What I find weird though is I don't often hear about other led products having problems.. Granted this is just a small section of the entire customer base...
     
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  9. faceplant

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    "I found these about this time last year "

    Have I been living under a rock somewhere?:shocked: I have been looking for upgrades for the SL20 forever! How did I miss it? Too much time on the porn channels I guess. I feel like $%*$ recomending something a year old and of poor quality:dunno:. I will try and bring myself into the current time, stay safe my brothers!
     
  10. imaguy3

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    I never said it's poor quality... Everyone I've shown my light to has been uber impressed with the output (compared to a regular stinger). I just have had bad luck with it. I have two other co-workers who don't drop their lights and haven't had a problem with theirs (we all bought together last year). I would like to know how the sl-20 one compares though...
     
  11. imaguy3

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    So I already got a reply back from Monstertorch... here it is...

    "Joe – see reply below from our engineering director. I will send you a new unit out on Monday. Just send the old unit to – 4984 Waterport Way, Duluth, Ga. 30096. Thanks!

    Cathy Hill

    404-583-8730

    From: Chuck Cody [mailto:acmcody@bellsouth.net]
    Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:36 AM
    To: Cathy Hill
    Subject: Re: Form data

    Cathy,

    Please send Joe an email and tell he can glue the lens back on BUT we do not want any First Responder to have anything less that a perfect item that come from MONSTERTORCH. The lens should NEVER come off, therefore--- please send him a brand new Stinger upgrade ASAP. Ask him to him return the unit for analysis and thank him for his business with a BIG HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

    Cody

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Cathy Hill
    To: acmcody@bellsouth.net
    Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:20 AM
    Subject: FW: Form data

    -----Original Message-----
    From: cgi-mailer@perfora.net [mailto:cgi-mailer@perfora.net]
    Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 2:59 PM
    To: Cathy@transportation-products.com
    Subject: Form data

    'Hey there, about a year ago I purchased the stinger upgrade and about half a dozen of the 2xAA flashlights.

    About six months ago I had to send back my stinger upgrade because it failed, and you replaced it under warranty. The pins on the back of the unit came off...

    Well last night my upgrade started to flicker, so I took the bezel off my light to see what was going on. When I did so the bezel and plastic lens came apart, and then the little dome that sits on top of the led came off.

    I put the bezel/lens back together and put it back on the light without the little dome, it still works however the light isn't as focused/bright now.

    Is there a way I can repair this or is it still covered under warranty? It appears that the little dome would just glue on, but I don't know if they use a special glue or if it's more complex than that. If pictures would help I can send some.

    Thanks,
    Joe'"


    So if any of you are considering an upgrade, but unsure if it's reliable... if you deal with Monstertorch I'm 2 for 2 as far as outstanding customer service (granted I shouldn't need it but I'm glad they're good).
     
  12. AB1136

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    I'm waiting for Terralux to release the new TLE-110S upgrade for the SL-20X. It's a 600 lumen LED that is dim-able and should be close to what you can get for the MagCharger.

    Evidence of it can be found Here
     
  13. imaguy3

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    Here's another email I just got from them after sending them my address and asking them if they cared I posted on here about them...

    "Also when your shipment comes back we will send you $2.00 for your postage expense. Just send it back first class mail – that’s the cheapest. As far as sharing your experiences that would be fabulous! Word of mouth is our best advertising! Most other dealers simply refer their customers back to Terralux but we always take care of warranty issues ourselves. We are in the process of updating our website to spotlight our new NiMH batteries for the Stinger series and MagCharger. Unfortunately we aren’t great tech types and it is pain to do the website but that’s the name of the game anymore. I hope you are receiving our I-flash letters and product notifications via e-mail. Thanks again and Happy New Year!

    Cathy"

    The battery for the stinger she's talking about will give about 6-7hrs with the 200 lumen upgrade (their claim)

    They also have had these upgrades in the works since August (when I saw them in their newsletter)

    1.)Ultra Stinger upgrade 180 Lumens with runtime of 8-10 hours
    2.)Surefire 6P upgrade with 220 Lumens with multi-mode dimmable function
    3.)700-800 lumen upgrade for Magcharger and Maglights with 3 stage Brightness levels for longer battery life
    4.)Ultra-Monster NiMH Battery for SL20X and MagCharger, the MT-4500 6.0V, with 2-3 x runtimes of standard battery.
     
  14. imaguy3

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    got my replacement stinger upgrade today. The original ones were a bezel just like the regular stinger, on this one they've included a rubber "anti-roll" ring which covers the top of the bezel, also acting as a cushion if you should drop it.... It's quite a bit bigger then it needs to be though...

    eta:

    Here's the pic comparing the stinger with the "anti-roll" ring to a regular stinger... it's easily removed as it's just a piece of rubber that slips over the top... it's a nice idea, I think just too bulky..

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    I didn't want to replace my SL-20X which I've had for fourteen years but was wanting to upgrade to an LED only bulb assembly. I contacted Malkoff and had them make me one. This sucker is bright. Almost too bright.
     
  16. Kahr_Glockman

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    So you are saying that Malkoff built you a SL-20X LED assembly? If thats the case how much did it run you? Can you post pics of the LED assembly?

    Malkoff was the first place that I looked for replacement bulbs.
     
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    I was out on a job Monday when my SL20x pooped out after about 15 minutes of use. That's no good. :steamed: I was about to can it for good when I stumbled upon the Terralux upgrade. Sadly I did not see this thread our I would have ordered from the vendor mentioned above. I also upgraded my battery to a 3500 mAh version.

    I can't have my light crapping out in 15 minutes. I called Terralux and they said the LED will handle the additional amps. I also asked about the new 110s coming out. The guy on the phone said at least a comple more months. We all know what that means... :whistling:

    Anyway, when the 600 lumen 110s is ready, I'm sure I can off load my 200 lumen upgrade. I'll try to update this thread after I've had the upgrade for a bit and let you know how it works in the field.
     
  18. dano1427

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    I have the Terralux Stinger upgrade and it's horrible: purplish, hazy beam (probably due to the optic used), and an unreliable mounting system.

    I'd say stick with the incan and its proven reliablility.
     
  19. imaguy3

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    You probably got one of the first ones? My first one was purplish... now mine's almost as white as the stinger led.. definately not purplish. I also noticed the focus got tighter and the clear "optic" part was more clear and appeared to be a better polish..
     
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    I have the Terralux LED conversion on my SL20. used it daily for about a year, works great.. very bright and the battery holds a charge much longer with the LED. No more dim light at the end of a long traffic accident.