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lead or FMJ or plated for a glock

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by jimbullet, May 31, 2006.

  1. I believe there has been several conflicting reports on whether or not we should use lead ammo in glock barrels. It seems to be safe, we ought to stay out of lead ammo. My question however is I've seen several local manufactured ammo in the Phils where it seems they are not really FMJ but copper plated bullets. Are these also safe for Glocks?
     
  2. Depends on where you get your plated bullets. Some are so soft that you're better off using plain lead bullets. I find Stronghand's plated bullets soft and leads my G17 barrel a lot.

    9MX swears by his plated bullets and uses them extensively without any negative effects on his barrel.

    For me, the so called "teflon" heads (they're not real teflon coated)are a lot better than the copper plated ones.
     


  3. Where would be the best place to buy good copper plated ammo? Those that are not too soft? Or rather, what brand would you guys recommend?
     
  4. pogie45

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    I shot hundreds of lead reloads on my Glock 21 & Glock 17 with no problems. For each 50 rounds that I shoot, the last 5 rounds will be FMJs. If I shoot a hundred, the last 10 will be FMJs. The FMJs cleans out the lead residue in the barrel. Just make sure to clean the barrel after each range visit.
     
  5. Kiddo

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    I have heard conflicting reports that shooting FMJs after lead would instead flatten or make the lead stick more on the barrel wall (like a steamroller) rather than shaving it out. Is there an actual study which proves/disproves one from the other?
     
  6. Well, its true for the 1911s, the last few rounds if shot with an FMJ, would definitely clean the barrel. Its not true that it would flatten the lead. The rounds will push it out. Im just a little bit more concerned over the glocks since Im sure everyone has heard of the KBs in the US. Most definitely I dont want that to happen. And these gunstores have been advertising not to shoot lead or teflon coz it will ruin the barrel which may lead to KBs
     
  7. Searching on GT will rsult in many warnings NOT to use lead or plated bullets. You safety, your choice.

    You have been given fair warning, GLOCK says not to do it.

    :stop:

    Buy the way "running" a FMJ bullets down a leaded bore will only increase the risks of overpressure and failure of the weapon. The lead is compressed and not removed by the FMJ bullets. Use a bronze brush and Hoppes #9 solvent and see what kind of lead crud scapes off the inside of your barrel after 200 rounds of lead bullets. :shocked:


    Again it's you ass on the line. :upeyes:
     
  8. charlie-xray

    charlie-xray Gunpowder Adik

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    I would not dare use LEAD or copper plated LEADS on my Glock, it's NOT worth saving the pennies while eventually destroying the thousand worth pesos of Barrel. Even the manual from Glock says it.
     
  9. win231

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    I've fired at least 8,500 plated handloads in my 6 glocks. There may be some confusion about copper plated vs copper wash bullets. I only use the plated bullets from Berry's or West coast. You can tell a copper wash bullet by its rough finish which looks like a copper-colored cast lead bullet. A copper wash bullet leaves lead residue like a lead bullet so it may not be safe in Glocks. A copper plated bullet doesn't leave any more residue than a copper jacketed bullet. Plated bullets have velocity limitations - around 1100 fps according to some manufacturers. Also no heavy roll crimps which can cut through the plating. For handloading 9mm with plated bullets, I use the 124 or 147 gr. which keeps the velocity below 1100 fps & still functions in a Glock.

    Like any manufacturer, Glock has to warn against all handloads due to liability issues since they have no way of knowing how safe your handloads are.
     
  10. vega

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    I must have a different manual. What page does it says not to use lead or copper plated bullets?
     
  11. Thanks for the clarification between copper wash and copper plated bullets as well the info on handloading plated bullets win231. :)
     
  12. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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    Shooting lead is ok for glocks as long as you clean the barrel every couple of hundred rounds. Shooting fmj after a number of lead rounds, :nono:.
     
  13. Its kinda difficult removing lead even if you use outers products and brush with a brass. I dont know but this might be better of in a separate topic but just wanted to ask, I heard several people using gasoline or was that kerosene to soak the barrels before scrubbing them. Dont know though if this is a good idea and Ive never tried it myself too.
     
  14. Kiddo

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    All I know is that kerosene acts as a degreaser, which will take out the oils and probably will soften the powder residue. I don't know if it will make cleaning the lead out easier though. Can anyone chime in?
     
  15. PD1017

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    Soaking and scrubbing w/ unleaded gasoline is usually recommended to get the lead out of the barrel but I havent use it yet either.

    Well, the problem with lead bullets is one of the main reasons why I am hesitant to buy a Glock. Some say that using synthetic motor oil to lube the barrel will minimize lead fouling.
     
  16. Kiddo

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    Were there any tests which could verify that using gasoline/kerosene will make lead cleaning easier?
     
  17. sundancekid

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    how about those bore scrubber brand bore cleaner? are they any good in clearing lead fouling on the barrel?
     
  18. Yup... Me and my bro use kerosene all the time to clean all of our guns. Even my dad uses kerosene for his gun... And its been his practice ever since. What we do is fill a pail with kerosene (1/3 full actually). Then we dissamble our guns and dunk everything in the pail. Leave it there for 10 to 15min. If you rarely clean your gun... U can leave it longer... My dad leaves his guns dunked overnite. After that, brush everything with a tooth brush or any soft brush. U can see the barrels are realy clean like new. Let dry for a couple of min or an hour. Using an air compressor would be easier. Lubricate and assemble. Oh by d way, the used kerosene can be re-used... Just let it stand for a couple of days and u'll see the leads on the bottom of the pail. The kerosene should be back to its clear form.
     
  19. vega

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    Do you mean inside the bore? Not a good practice. Bore should be dry when shooting. I read somewhere that it increases the pressure if the bore is lubed. Someone correct me please.
     
  20. I could only surmise that kerosene evaporates very quickly anyway...