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Lead free reloading

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by finfoo, May 20, 2014.

  1. finfoo

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    I would like to reload lead free with new brass. 9mm, .38 and .45. Someone said I needed special brass with small primers? Very new at this so not sure what to do. :shocked:
     
  2. Kentguy

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    finfoo,

    One tip is to watch closely the velocity you are trying to achieve. basic rule of thumb is the higher the velocity the more heat you generate and the more lead collects inside your barrel.

    Experimentation and close observation is key with respect to this.

    Good luck and be safe out there.
     


  3. Angry Fist

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    Do you mean solid copper bullets? And watch out for .45 brass that takes small primers. They're out there, but the vast majority use large primers.
     
  4. fredj338

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    If you mean totally lead free, aint gonna happen unless you buy lead free, "green" primers. If you are just talking bullets, then you'll need solid copper or lead free frangibles.
    https://www.sinterfire.com/Default.aspx
    FWIW, vel & leading have little to do with anything. Little if any of the bullet "melts" as it travels down the bbl. If it does, it's microscopic because you can't see it in recovered bullets.
     
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  5. finfoo

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    I am new to this, but wanted to make my own bullets similar to Remington's leadless bullets.
     
  6. WeeWilly

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    I am still a little confused, are you talking solid copper (i.e. no lead inside the jacket)?

    If you are talking totally lead free rounds, including lead free primers, I don't think the so-called green primers are available to reloaders.

    For reloading lead free bullets (like Barnes, Nosler, etc.) that are all copper, there is a fair amount of load data available for the Barnes bullets. There is no special requirement for those primer wise.
     
  7. fredj338

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    Rem, fed, etc lead free are also loaded with green, non lead primers. I am not sure what you are trying to achieve, but you have been given enough info to start.
     
  8. finfoo

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    Thanks all - didn't know the difference between bullets and primers - will figure it out.
     
  9. Photoman642

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    Yep. I think most of the lead exposure from shooting is from the primers and lead free primers are not available to the public (as far as I know).
     
  10. fredj338

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    PMC used to make some, but I haven't seen them for years.
     
  11. Colorado4Wheel

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    Maybe explain WHY? and we can help you understand what to do. Are you just worried about Lead Exposer? Are you shooting at a place you have to use Lead Free? Whats the deal?
     
  12. fredj338

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    No I love guessing. Like charades; 3 words, first word sounds like.........:whistling:
     
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  13. pmcjury

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    Most of those still use a standard fmj projectile, just lead free primers. At least the green and yellow box of Remington does.

    Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Ohub Campfire mobile app
     
  14. finfoo

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    I was interested because I had my blood checked for lead about 6 months ago and it was 3x too high. Since then I use delead before I leave the range and am more careful and it has come down.
     
  15. njl

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    Do you primarily shoot indoors or outside? Do you wear gloves (nitrile seem to work best) when cleaning your guns? How are you cleaning your brass? Do you eat/drink at the range? I suspect high lead levels are more about some habit that can be changed rather than shooting primers that have some lead and exposed lead base bullets. Otherwise, we'd all have high lead levels.
     
  16. happie2shoot

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    Today I loaded and shot some wolf/pmc sp n/t lead free primers,
    got them for 16.00 pr. 1000 5 years ago.

    If I learn how to take a picture of them I put it on here I will,
    they shoot super with the right load.
     
  17. WeeWilly

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    As Photoman642 pointed out, most of the lead from shooting comes from the primers.

    Are you shooting indoors?
     
  18. dkf

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    What was the actual number of your test? Some of these doctors go by what an infant or childs lead level should be and apply it to adults. That just don't work.

    Anyway using small pistol primers (get small primer .45acp) and a total metal jacket bullet or frangible "green" bullet should help your numbers. Of course if you shooting at an indoor range shooting outside is better. My parents taught me that outside is where you shoot.

    If you send me the picture I can post it for you if you can't get it figured out.
     
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  19. finfoo

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    Yeah I changed my habits - washing up right after, use delead cleaner in my car, have range shoes, etc. I also go to a newer place now with better ventilation. I don't have a lot of outdoor ranges in this area and I like the indoor leagues and bowling pin shoots. My number was 30 but now 18 so changing habits helps. Yes I use nitrile gloves when I clean my guns.
     
  20. WeeWilly

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    If you shoot indoor you are going to get exposure from lead styphnate (from the primers), it gets everywhere, you also breathe it. So called "green" ammo will help, but unless the range has everyone shoot it, you are still getting it from the guy next to you.

    Sounds like you have a handle on the inputs. Awareness is half the battle. Good advice from dkf on a few other strategies. Finding a place outdoors will help the most.