You can get the standard Win 147JHP which is either identicle, or nearly identicle, depending on who you ask, to the 147STHP. The GD that Colo mentioned, Golden Sabres, probably Remington standard 147's, and a few I've overlooked. I got the XTP's because I had a BassPro gift card and they had them on the shelf. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!