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LAPD loses shotgun off motorcycle on MLK Blvd

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by ChuteTheMall, Aug 1, 2014.


  1. ChuteTheMall

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    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-shotgun-off-police-motorcycle-20140731-story.html

    Of all the streets this could have happened on.......:whistling:
    I'm sure a concerned citizen will return it soon.
    Locks aren't supposed to just break.....
     

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    I'm sure it never even bounced once before it walked off....:whistling:
     

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    It's a mechanical device made by a human...... and they do wear out... I've seen that first hand..
     
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    Good luck finding that gun. Hopefully they can find it, and they can figure out why/how the locking mechanism broke, but I won't get my hopes up.
     
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    I have always thought it questionable that a motor cycle cop even needs a shotgun. I really wonder how many times they actually used the shotgun in the line of duty?
    Be that as it is why did a K-9 bite another officer while they were searching for the lost gun!!

    Apparently it was quite a nasty bite and the officer may not return to work!!

    Kind of an embarrassing day for LAPD.
     
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    German engineering!

    BMW locks on RT's are for Scheiße . I used to have to pound the heck out of them to get them open.

    Local motor officers are first responders and carry SG's or M4 variants. The motor officers I know have all been in gunfights.
     
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    I'd like to see how the shotguns are mounted on the bikes.

    Years ago we found that the Motors actually got to the crime scenes before the units because they were not confined by normal traffic restrictions (and, generally, the motor cops I worked with went like bats out of $ell to respond to officer needs assistance or a bank robbery). I think they enjoyed a break from typical traffic and escort duty.

    I think most of the motors liked having shotguns on their bikes (weather be darned) and felt more comfortable with something other than a sidearm.

    Our Ithaca shotguns were mounted muzzle down in a electronic rack. IIRC the bike's power had to be on to unlock the lock.

    The shot guns were loaded in the magazine but not one in the chamber.

    We had a guy who ran around with the shotgun on the bike for over a year.

    There had been a lot of talk about vibration of the bike damaging the #4 buck we carried but when this guy pulled the Ithaca out at the range, all rounds fired w/o a problem.

    Now, if the open carry folks learn about the shotgun racks for motor cycles - we could have a whole new thread going.
     
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    An officer was severely injured by the K-9. They had to use a tourniquet on him. Best wishes for his swift recovery.
     
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    Jeez....that sounds horrible.
     
  10. SAR

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    The shotguns are mounted sort of like this....

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    I'm thinking some sort of electronic switch that lights a warning light on the instrument cluster when shotgun is out of lock may be a good idea..
    At least you'd know immediately it fell out instead of miles down the road when you stop

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    some people like locks on their guns believe it or not.
     
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    Years ago, a few of us were chatting with an LAPD motor officer at Hollywood and Vine. We heard his radio broadcast an armed robbery that had just occurred about a half-mile away. We told him "stay safe, nice talking with you". He said "that's for patrol. See this motor? I'm traffic" and he stayed right where he was.
     
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    Wish I could say there weren't slugs like that everywhere, but obviously there are. Hope they recover the shotgun, but it sounds like that might not happen at all.

    Our K9s first bite was his handler. Granted, our dog is a friggin psycho, but this isn't the first time I've heard of an officer getting bit by a working dog. Hope he can recover.
     
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    This is a shame on both counts.

    Hopefully the gun is recovered.

    And I have seen accidental K-9 bites. They are not pretty. Hopefully the officer will recover and return to duty.
     
  16. WT

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    LA Times reports shotgun found, perp arrested.

    I suspect the motor officer will be transferred back to patrol and assigned an AMC Gremlin.
     
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    I am glad the shotgun was found, and is back in proper hands.
     
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    I know of one Anchorage, AK PD motor who carried an MP5K slung cross his chests!!
     
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    Our old style shotgun mounts used a spring loaded arm that was locked by a solenoid. The arm springs closed, but isn't necessarily locked until the solenoid engages. I've had the solenoid stick and not lock, but the spring loaded arm gives the perception that the mount is locked. The new mounts we use look like a giant handcuff, without any spring loaded arm mechanism, so the Officer needs to close the arm manually, and it ratchets closed.

    LAPD has dogs specifically trained to sniff-out guns. They also train to find/locate off lead. That this dog (probably a Malinois) bit another Officer during an article search would raise a lot of red flags with me, in terms of that dog's temperament. According to the media stories, the Officer was bit in the calf. The bite was bad enough that a tourniquet was needed, I bet a significant portion of that calf muscle was removed by the bite.

    I'd like to find info that shows the Officer bitten frequency between GSD's and Malinois. Ever since the Shepherd was "phased-out" for Mali's, I'd guess "friendly" bites have increased.
     
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    Has nothing to do with being a slug in Los Angeles. Just because a hotshot is simulcast on your frequency, it doesn't mean you respond. That robbery was merely being simulcast on WTD frequency. They usually don't respond, any more than a patrol unit responding to a traffic call.