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Kimber Super Match or Les Baer Premier II?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by carguy2244, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. carguy2244

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    Kimber Super Match or Les Baer Premier II?

    Which one?
    Why?
    Thank you.
     
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  3. rsxr22

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    Between the 2 i would go with the LB as well. In my experience, Kimbers always look pretty, but i personally have not had luck at all. 2 had failure issues and my last functioned well, but the fitting of small parts and slide to frame fit was sub standard for a $1300+ pistol. I will never buy one again. The Super Carry is beautiful, but the LB's are tried and true to their guarantees!
     
  4. carguy2244

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    That's what I thought too. So why in the world is the Kimber $435 more???
     
  5. GVFlyer

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    Somewhere in the air.
    My Les Baer PIIs have been accurate and reliable. The one Kimber that I had was accurate.




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  6. gconan

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    I think either would be a really fine choice.
     
  7. RH45

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  8. Rinspeed

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    I really like Kimbers but there's no comparison between the two. Put the same number of rounds through both and when you get to point where the Kimber is worn out the Baer will be just getting broken in. ;)
     
  9. bac1023

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  10. bac1023

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    I love the way that Kimber shoots, but the Baer is a better quality gun.

    ...and, by the way, the actual street price of those two is closer than the MSRPs.
     
  11. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

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    I'm a big Kimber fan, but between a Kimber anything vs. the Baer, I'd have to go LB.
     
  12. both are fine weapons. at the same price range, you will get more for your money with Baer.
     
  13. brisk21

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    I can't imagine a world where one would pick a Kimber over a Baer assuming both are in similar condition.
     
  14. bac1023

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    I shoot the Kimber better than my Baer Concept V. In fact, that Kimber is one of the best shooting 1911s I own. Unfortunately, parts quality is not that of a semi-custom.
     
  15. PhoneCop

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    I've been very pleased with my KSM II. I don't think you would be wrong with either. Get what you want and don't let other's opinions on your choice matter.

    If you are at all concerned about the quality of the KSM IIs parts or performance, you can look back through years of video and tens of thousands of rounds through my KSM II in competition and judge for yourself.

    Best of luck with your future purchase.
     
  16. carguy2244

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    Yes. I saw a NIB Super Match II go for 1375 on GB. I was going to buy it, but just felt the Baer was the way to go. Cheap as the Kimber was, something's only cheap if it's what I want, and I'm not a collector, just a shooter.
     
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  17. bac1023

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    True.

    You put your SM through some serious drills.
     
  18. PlasticGuy

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    I've had both, and I agree. The Super Match is highly underrated. It is a really good shooter, and better fitted and finished than most give it credit for. That said, my Premier II is slightly better fitted and is build from higher quality parts. At the same price point, the Baer is the way to go.
     
  19. ShakyDave

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    Down the rabbit-hole
    The Kimber Super Match is a bottom-up competition gun. I see a lot of them in USPSA competitons, probably more commonly than the LB. It's not really the same gun as the rest of the Kimbers as much as it is the flagship of the line. More like comparing the Springfield PPC Distinguished to the rest of the Springfield line.

    Anyway, the Kimbers turn up in USPSA Single-Stack competition and Steel Challenge with regularity, usually outfitted with 10-round magazines, and the shooters do well with them.

    I shoot my Baer P2, but I never feel equipment superiority when I'm shooting against the Kimber SM.