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Kel Tec Continues to innovate, 30 rds of 22WMR due out 2Q 2010

Discussion in 'Rimfire Forum' started by TRguy, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. TRguy


    Mar 26, 2009
    Concord, NC

    The PMR-30 is a light weight, full size pistol chambered for the flat-shooting .22Magnum cartridge (.22WMR). The PMR-30 operates on a unique hybrid
    blowback/locked-breech system. This operation system allows for the use of a wide variety of ammunition as it seamlessly adjusts between locked breach and blowback
    operation, depending on the pressure of the cartridge. It uses a double stack magazine of a new design that holds 30 rounds and fits completely in the grip of the pistol.
    The trigger is a crisp single action with an over-travel stop. The manual safety is a thumb activated ambidextrous safety lever (up for SAFE, down for FIRE). The slide locks back after the last shot and a manual slide lock lever is also provided. The light, crisp trigger pull and fiber optic sights make the PMR-30 ideal for target shooting and hunting small game.

    Slide and barrel are 4140 steel, frame is 7075 aluminum. Grip, slide cover, trigger, mag release, and safety levers are glass reinforced Nylon (Zytel), much like other Kel-Tec Pistols. Magazine is Also Zytel and holds 30 rounds, with round count ports. Other features include: dual opposing extractors for reliability, heel magazine release to aid in magazine retention, dovetailed aluminum front sight, Picatinny accessory rail under the barrel, Urethane recoil buffer, captive coaxial recoil springs. The barrel is
    fluted for light weight and effective heat dissipation. PMR30 disassembles for cleaning by removal of a single pin.

    Expected Availability: Quarter 2, 2010
    Expected MSRP: $415
    Caliber: .22 Magnum (.22WMR)
    Barrel length 4.3”
    Length: 7.9”
    Height: 5.8”
    Grip Width: 1.1”
    Max width, across safety levers: 1.3”
    Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
    Trigger pull: 3.5 to 5 lbs
    Weight (no mag): 13.6 oz.
    Muzzle Velocity (40 gr): 1230 fps
    Made in USA
    More info will be available at the SHOT show 2010 Kel-Tec Booth (#2825)
  2. The Grendel P-30 reborn! :supergrin:

  3. TRguy


    Mar 26, 2009
    Concord, NC
    Grendel P-30


    Kinda hard to deny since the both were designed by George Kellgren!!!!!
  4. If they are just doing a remake of a 30 year old design how can that be considered innovative?
  5. The new one has a picatinny rail... duh! :supergrin:
  6. eagleye1022


    Dec 5, 2009
    :rofl: That and it just looks much cooler...
  7. TRguy


    Mar 26, 2009
    Concord, NC
    "they" are one person. George Kellgren the owner of Kel-tec designed both the Grendel (His company) and the new Kel-tec(Also his company). He is one of the most innovative designers of firearms in America.

    Grendel 30
    and on
    and on
  8. RFPhoto


    Dec 9, 2007
    According to KT, they will not offer this new pistol to the CA market.
  9. Yeah who can forget the great Grendel P10. :puking:

    And I thought he lost the company to his wife in the divorce.
  10. TRguy


    Mar 26, 2009
    Concord, NC
    What have you designed? What have you done to advance our economy? hummmm? waiting.

    Get out of your underwear and out of your basement and quit demeaning a great American's accomplishments.

    Probably the same yahoo that complains about his wife's cooking and that she never looks good and wonders why the pool guys has to come to the house to service the pool three times a week, ........IN DECEMBER.
  11. smoke


    Jan 11, 2000
    I'm OK with most of it, except the heel mag release and the Zytel mag. I also hope the price of .22WMR comes down. I don't shoot my WMR's much nowadays because of the price of ammo.
  12. Brucev


    Jul 19, 2009
    Many years ago I owned a nice Ruger Single-Six. I seldom fired the revolver using the .22 WMag cylinder. I was a student on a extremely restricted budget. After graduation, my interest shifted to center-fire rifles and handguns. I was never interested in the AMT .22 semi-auto pistol. From published reports I gathered it was troubled by indifferent accuracy and problematic function. I never noticed and would have had no interest in the Grendel P-30. I do now find this PMR-30 to be of significant interest. From what little I've read, I can not tell if it is only a product improvement of the P-30 or a new design. But given the reputation of Kel-Tec, I would expect they would not bring to market a less than perfected design. I will be very interested to see how this pistol is presented, what are the results in testing and reviews and what are the results with end users. Sincerely. Brucev.
  13. Kel-Tec and Perfect are not completely mutually agreeable definitions. :dunno:

    I have had a P-11 and for 5 years it has fit the bill; but the SUB2K, in my opinion, was/is a P.O.S.! :whistling:
  14. HexHead


    Jul 16, 2009
    I wonder if they'll offer a threaded barrel version?
  15. Janno05


    Mar 18, 2008
    Shawnee, KS
    I'd much rather just have a 30 round magazine for my 1911 conversion kit

  16. No I just happen to have been one of George Kelgren's first customers. I had Grendel P10 serial number 00064.

    When the POS frame cracked they wouldn't do anything about it, shortly there after he shut down Grendel and started back up as Kel-tec.

    I don't consider a guy who dumps his company because it's having a few problems, then starts it up under another name to keep from paying out to former customers a "Great American".

    So enjoy your Kel-Tec Koolaide.
  17. mserr

    mserr mmm bop

    Dec 20, 2006
    new mehico
    double-stacking rimmed cartridges, sounds like it's going to be a fine weapon. There's also too many damn screws, they should have just molded the frame in one peice.
  18. smoke


    Jan 11, 2000
    Not necessarily - could be the mag has some type of U shaped cavity.
  19. DriBak

    DriBak GUNS UP Millennium Member

    Jul 4, 1999
    West Texas
    The poor man's five seven :)
    I have a Grendel P12 and it is a fine weapon