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Kahr P9 ammo tests

Discussion in 'Kahr Club' started by Blkbrd, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. Blkbrd

    Blkbrd

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    I have been really impressed with my Kahr P9. Its now at 600 rounds without a single malfunction.

    Wanted to try a good selection of carry ammo, I like the feel of the 147's but it likes everything including +P+.

    Note: Groups are done resting elbows on range bag, gun in free recoil 20 yards 2 random 5 shot groups. Groups all to the left and low as no sight adjustment has been done due to a trijicon/dawson set is on the way.
     

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  2. cziv

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  3. Blkbrd

    Blkbrd

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    I have read that about many Kahr's.

    Thought there would be more difference in group elevation center between loads as its a little gun, but everything from 115gr. white box to my sweet 147gr. Production loads to beastly +P+ centered within a couple of inches low and left.

    The left is an easy fix, the low not so much so as there is a shortage of sights for Kahrs. Taking a mill to a front sight with a tritium capsule should be fun?

    Heinie wont even sell a rear slant pro without tritium insert or just a serrated front tritium sight alone?

    Cant stand dots, bars, ext. on my rear sights.
     
  4. Denied

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    Low left can be two thing, first sight alignment but usually, and I had the problem, anticipation of the gun going off. With the long trigger pull of a Kahr and/or Glock it would not be unusual. I would suggest putting the butt of the pistol on a sand bag and if possible sand bags on both sides, then use trigger fingers on both hands at same time (one over the other) concentrate on trigger pull. Shoot several 3 shot groups at no longer than 21 feet, this will make sure the problem in in sight alignment and not trigger pull.
     
  5. Blkbrd

    Blkbrd

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    This is not an advice tread on how to shoot, its a visual demonstration of where the different premium loads impact vs. each other.

    1. Master class shooter in IPSC, IDPA, NRA, GSSF.

    2. If you put the gun on a sandbag it gives you a slightly different impact point than free recoil, and not a true representation of impact like when you might actually have to use it.

    3. 3 shot groups don't tell you true potential, and my dog can shoot a small group at 21 feet, pistols should be sighted in for the longest anticipated shot not the closest.

    P9 not PM, not a true pocket gun but one that carries and shoots like a real handgun not a pocket pistol. Just a whole lot thinner than a baby Glock.
     
  6. bean66

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    My groups from my PM9 were much like the fith (or last) picture in your series.

    I'm a new shooter and think that I may have been either anticipating or overgripping.
     
  7. cziv

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    With all due respect, this does seem like a shooting (gunsights/bbl/??) problem since your groupings of the various ammos are basically yeilding the same results.

    I hope those new sights work out for you Blkbrd
     
  8. khellandros66

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    I am gonna go with recoil anticipation, or tightening of the grip during trigger pull.

    I had a P9, and at 15yrds I would pump out 2-4in groups CoM in B27 targets. It takes a while before the owner really grows into a gun, 600 rounds is not a lot of time with it. Wait till you got a few thousand through it, then redo this test.

    Personally I loved Winchester Silvertips in my P9...
     
  9. ltxi

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    Low left is a shooter fire control issue...not the gun. Kahr triggers need to be approached like slick da revolvers.