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Kahr p380 vs S&W Bodyguard

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Bilbo Bagins, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

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    Anyone own either the Kahr P380 or the S&W Bodyguard, or both. Out of these two .380 pocket guns which would you recommend?
     
  2. greenman19

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    I carry the Kahr every day and like it. It has real sights but mine shoots low if you line them up. The trigger has a smooth (albeit long) pull, like a revolver.

    I have shot the S&W and it is more accurate than it has a right to be, with or without the laser. The drawback on the S&W is the trigger it is god awful hard and gets worse at the end of the stroke. A lighter main spring may solve the problem though.

    Either would be a good choice.
     


  3. Metal Angel

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    I have only shot the Khar, but it is wonderfully accurate and easy to be accurate with.
     
  4. Dexters

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    Search for BG 380 Vs Sig P238 on the forums also. Someone just did a comparison - it is a difficult decision.
     
  5. Not really. The Sig is twice the gun at twice the price and they handle the same but with a long trigger pull on the BG.
    I have both and on ranges day the BG stays home.
     
  6. eddy t

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    I have both and carry both and have not had a round fail to fire in either gun. 950 rounds through the bg and 450 rounds through the kahr. I bought the bg first.
    The kahr is my preference if you are willing to spend the additional money. Better built all around, are more streamline. laser is not really a plus for me on the bg, don't use it at the range.
    here are the specs for both:
    BG KAHR
    L 5.3 4.9
    H 4.1 3.9
    W .8 .8
    BL 2.8 2.5
    SR 4.2 4.0 (SIGHT RADIUS)
    WT12.3 11.3
    TRG 8 5.3

    PS... I HAVE TALON GRIPS ON BOTH GUNS, REALLY ENHANCES THE GRIP.
     
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  7. Bilbo Bagins

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    Funny , I have the Sig P238 and after a month I want to get rid of it. Loaded in a wallet holster that covers the safety its 1 1/2 inches thick and weighs +18 oz loaded. You better off just carrying a PM9 or a Beretta Nano :upeyes: I'm also not that impressed with an 8lb single action trigger, and I was disappointed with the so called Sig quality for a +$600 gun, with only 1 mag and the finish rubbing off the barrel after the first 50 rounds.

    Its a pretty looking gun, its fun to shoot, and its reliable, but its not a great pocket gun.
     
  8. Dexters

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    Not really, The BG is a DAO and the Sig's action is similar to the 1911.

    As to price - there is only $150 difference in my area.
     
  9. Berto

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    I like my BG 380, but it took a little work to get it right.
     
  10. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

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    Thanks, that is an awesome review. Like you mentioned the Sig was suprisingly heavy for a .380 pocket gun. Don't get me wrong, I like shooting it, but carrying it in the pocket just stinks for me. I tried carrying it around unloaded and its better, so the weight of a Sig 238 unloaded is about the weight of a S&W bodyguard loaded. The Kahr P380 is a little over an ounce lighter than the S&W bodyguard, but I wonder if having a nicer Kahr trigger and shaving an extra ounce is worth the extra +$150 or so in cost.

    I was critical of the Bodyguard in the past, but its been out for a while and I'm hoping all the bugs have been fixed.
     
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2012
  11. IMO the Kahr has the better trigger over the Smith & Wesson, Bodyguard. The Bodyguard (my father's) I have shot has been reliable. The Kahr 380 is more expensive in my area. The Kahr design seem to be very reliable design.

    For me, I would take the Kahr over the Bodyguard.
     
  12. Dexters

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    check out post #10 in that threat - fully loaded the difference is 2.1 oz.
     
  13. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

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    But when you factor in using a lightweight pocket holster that just covers the trigger vs full sized holster that covers the trigger and manual safety, now your talking 4 to 5 ounces.

    Like I mentioned earlier a loaded Sig P238 in leather holster that covers the safety is as thick and heavy as a loaded Kahr PM9/CM9 in a Desantis Nemesis.

    Why not buy a Bodyguard or Kahr 380, then trade in the Sig and get a Kahr or Beretta pocket 9mm.
     
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  14. Dexters

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    I'm with you that every ounce counts.

    I wouldn't go with the new pocket nines. My basic reasoning is that in a stress situation they have two disadvantages then the 380s related to recoil.
    1 - Second shot placement & time back on target
    2 - Second shot - risk of poor grip and/or limp wrist-ing and possible feeding problems

    I think the great grip and isosceles triangle you see on youtube etc. would be difficult in the situations most likely to be encountered.

    I think practicing one hand and other stressed grips is important.
     
  15. popapeach

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    Sorry guys can't agree about the Kahr I red everything I could on 380's and thought the Kahr would work for me. Right out of the box FTF's but I hung in there The gun shop says got to break it in recommend 250-300 rounds it got better but every once in a while another FTF it was a nice shooter then I took a friend out to the range on a 10-15 degree early winter day and that sucker just kept failing, can't trust it went for a G26 gen 4 heavy, a little but reliable , the recoil is even lighter, I love this Gun