Kahr p380 vs S&W Bodyguard

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Bilbo Bagins, Jul 4, 2012.


  1. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

    Anyone own either the Kahr P380 or the S&W Bodyguard, or both. Out of these two .380 pocket guns which would you recommend?
     

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  2. I carry the Kahr every day and like it. It has real sights but mine shoots low if you line them up. The trigger has a smooth (albeit long) pull, like a revolver.

    I have shot the S&W and it is more accurate than it has a right to be, with or without the laser. The drawback on the S&W is the trigger it is god awful hard and gets worse at the end of the stroke. A lighter main spring may solve the problem though.

    Either would be a good choice.
     

  3. I have only shot the Khar, but it is wonderfully accurate and easy to be accurate with.
     

  4. Search for BG 380 Vs Sig P238 on the forums also. Someone just did a comparison - it is a difficult decision.
     
  5. Not really. The Sig is twice the gun at twice the price and they handle the same but with a long trigger pull on the BG.
    I have both and on ranges day the BG stays home.
     
  6. I have both and carry both and have not had a round fail to fire in either gun. 950 rounds through the bg and 450 rounds through the kahr. I bought the bg first.
    The kahr is my preference if you are willing to spend the additional money. Better built all around, are more streamline. laser is not really a plus for me on the bg, don't use it at the range.
    here are the specs for both:
    BG KAHR
    L 5.3 4.9
    H 4.1 3.9
    W .8 .8
    BL 2.8 2.5
    SR 4.2 4.0 (SIGHT RADIUS)
    WT12.3 11.3
    TRG 8 5.3

    PS... I HAVE TALON GRIPS ON BOTH GUNS, REALLY ENHANCES THE GRIP.
     
    #6 eddy t, Jul 4, 2012
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  7. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

    Funny , I have the Sig P238 and after a month I want to get rid of it. Loaded in a wallet holster that covers the safety its 1 1/2 inches thick and weighs +18 oz loaded. You better off just carrying a PM9 or a Beretta Nano :upeyes: I'm also not that impressed with an 8lb single action trigger, and I was disappointed with the so called Sig quality for a +$600 gun, with only 1 mag and the finish rubbing off the barrel after the first 50 rounds.

    Its a pretty looking gun, its fun to shoot, and its reliable, but its not a great pocket gun.
     

  8. Not really, The BG is a DAO and the Sig's action is similar to the 1911.

    As to price - there is only $150 difference in my area.
     
  9. I like my BG 380, but it took a little work to get it right.
     
  10. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

    Thanks, that is an awesome review. Like you mentioned the Sig was suprisingly heavy for a .380 pocket gun. Don't get me wrong, I like shooting it, but carrying it in the pocket just stinks for me. I tried carrying it around unloaded and its better, so the weight of a Sig 238 unloaded is about the weight of a S&W bodyguard loaded. The Kahr P380 is a little over an ounce lighter than the S&W bodyguard, but I wonder if having a nicer Kahr trigger and shaving an extra ounce is worth the extra +$150 or so in cost.

    I was critical of the Bodyguard in the past, but its been out for a while and I'm hoping all the bugs have been fixed.
     
    #11 Bilbo Bagins, Jul 5, 2012
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  11. IMO the Kahr has the better trigger over the Smith & Wesson, Bodyguard. The Bodyguard (my father's) I have shot has been reliable. The Kahr 380 is more expensive in my area. The Kahr design seem to be very reliable design.

    For me, I would take the Kahr over the Bodyguard.
     
  12. check out post #10 in that threat - fully loaded the difference is 2.1 oz.
     
  13. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

    But when you factor in using a lightweight pocket holster that just covers the trigger vs full sized holster that covers the trigger and manual safety, now your talking 4 to 5 ounces.

    Like I mentioned earlier a loaded Sig P238 in leather holster that covers the safety is as thick and heavy as a loaded Kahr PM9/CM9 in a Desantis Nemesis.

    Why not buy a Bodyguard or Kahr 380, then trade in the Sig and get a Kahr or Beretta pocket 9mm.
     
    #14 Bilbo Bagins, Jul 5, 2012
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  14. I'm with you that every ounce counts.

    I wouldn't go with the new pocket nines. My basic reasoning is that in a stress situation they have two disadvantages then the 380s related to recoil.
    1 - Second shot placement & time back on target
    2 - Second shot - risk of poor grip and/or limp wrist-ing and possible feeding problems

    I think the great grip and isosceles triangle you see on youtube etc. would be difficult in the situations most likely to be encountered.

    I think practicing one hand and other stressed grips is important.
     
  15. Sorry guys can't agree about the Kahr I red everything I could on 380's and thought the Kahr would work for me. Right out of the box FTF's but I hung in there The gun shop says got to break it in recommend 250-300 rounds it got better but every once in a while another FTF it was a nice shooter then I took a friend out to the range on a 10-15 degree early winter day and that sucker just kept failing, can't trust it went for a G26 gen 4 heavy, a little but reliable , the recoil is even lighter, I love this Gun
     

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