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Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by dhgeyer, Nov 3, 2012.
New batch must be done - I just ordered one.
When the newly announced 40's are in stock I'm in for at least one and more than likely a pair.
I said I wasn't going to buy the Apex because my G19 is working perfectly with the new non-dipped extractor from Glock. But I just got a new G17 Gen4 yesterday, and haven't even shot it yet. For sixty bucks I'll buy one (just did) just out of curiosity. I can test 2 guns with dipped, non-dipped, and Apex extractors, a variety of springs, and Glock's and my homemade extractor depressor plunger and spring loaded bearings. Should be interesting.
Good luck with the .40. I notice on their website they are saying very clearly now that the extractors they have for 9mm are not for Gen 3 guns. They're still working on that one I guess.
Have one on order,......thanks for the heads up!
Just ordered one myself, my gen 4 19 is good so far but I figure I'll at least have one in case I develop issues at 1000 rounds or more like others have. Better to have it & not need it than need it and not have it.
does the Apex extractor work on a G26/3 ?
Thanks for the heads-up. I've been following along on the M4 forum, and looks like he'll have something available soon for the .40S&W models.
All of my 9X19 Glocks are Gen4, and all of them have the MIM/dipped extractors. No weird BTF yet, but I have experienced crappy ejection when I don't charge my ammo with enough powder. Because of that, I've been loading on the mid-high to high side of recommended load values for the different projectiles I'm shooting. It would be nice to load on the lower end of the spectrum, since the pistol doesn't kick as much when using bunny fart loads.
I'll do a range comparison of the stock extractors/EDP springs on both my G17 and G19 models, both of which have seen the most rounds so far.
Thank you again for the heads-up, there are two en route to my place.
I think I read where he will be coming out soon with a version just for the gen 3's.
is there any need to mess with the extractors on the gen 2 guns? no issues so far, but i've only put a couple of hundred rounds through my 23, i just got it a couple of weeks ago.
So is the deal with the MIM extractor is that they wear so much faster than the older cast ones that the ejection gets inconsistant after a few hundred rounds? If you put in a Apex extractor do you go back to the older Glocks reliability and longevity?
There is if you are getting BTF. If not, no. My early G3 is.
Not that simple, unfortunately. Some newer Glocks don't eject well, symptoms being some combination of jamming, weak ejection, inconsistent ejection, and/or brass cases hitting shooters in the head/face.
There are several possible causes. Recoil spring assemblies have been replaced by Glock with a new unit (twice), as have ejectors. This has cured some guns. There is a new extractor out that has helped some guns. It is MIM.
There doesn't seem to be one answer that works for every gun. Some have postulated an accumulation (stacking) of too liberal tolerances in a combination of parts including the slide.
I personally think that weak spring tension on the extractor is a big factor. You can get stronger springs.
I personally don't think that parts manufactured by the Metal Injection Molding (MIM) process are necessarily inferior. Other manufacturers are using MIM parts, including extractors, with no problems. The parts just need to be made correctly.
Bottom line is, not all guns are having problems or will have problems. No one really knows what the percentage of problem guns is. If yours is working well, best leave it alone and hope for the best I would say. If it has ejection problems, then there are several parts you can look at replacing and see what works.
100% agree. They are no longer perfection, so don't touch it unless you are having issues.
S&W has used MIM for their revolver hammers and other critical parts for years.
Already out of stock. Dang...
Apex needs to be producing the by the truck load. SJ 40
Do they make ones for the 3rd Gen G17? I would think so.
So whats the update parts from glock? I have the 30274 ejector, dipped extractor, 042 recoil spring and my Gen4 17 is from December 2011. I have always had erratic ejection but just thought it was normal as it was my first handgun, now i am getting to the 1000 round mark and more and more cases land on my arm or brim on my hat. I e-mailed glock with no reply.
Call instead of email, and ask for the warranty department.
You have the current ejector and RSA. They replaced my #2 "dipped" extractor with a #3 "dipped" extractor. Some are getting non-"dipped" extractors put in their Glocks, as well, so I don't think they've settled on a standard yet.