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Jerry Ahern Survivalist Series

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by Stevekozak, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. Stevekozak

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    Just picked up the first couple of these books to have something to read. It was my understandint that Jerry Ahern was a respected and knowledgable gun writer. I am about 200 pages into the first book of the series and am appalled at the stupidity of the information. Nukes explode, and within 2 hours 70% of Americans are dead, and many are dead from radiation poisoning? The whole West Coast drops into the ocean and the deadly tidal wave has already formed and wipedout much of the rest of it? That quickly? Really, that quickly? No one ever talks, but SHOUTS, SCREAMS, ..... The President commits suicide to keep the US from surrendering? Really? Even the gun information is ridiculous. Main charecter is super badass that has mastered everything in the world, including medical school? Carrys two six shoot .45 autos into extreme combat with a back of of a full-sized .357 revolver? WOW! I have yet to read a single thing about survival. Did he really publish 20+ volumes of this stuff?
     
  2. Dexters

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    I think I read some of them. Were they written in the 80s?

    Yes, it isn't about survival ism. It is a western set in a distopian world. I think the main character had Dentonics 45s and never ran out of ammo.
     


  3. Commander_Zero

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    Well, give it a little slack....it was the '80's...Reagan was president, nationalism and patriotism was back in style, and the hangover from Carter was starting to wear off.

    Ahern's cashcow is also available on Amazon in ebook format. If you want to really go nuts and put your brain in a headlock, you can collect all 27 or so books and the two standalone novels.

    Ahern managed to milk this thing all the way up into the mid 90's. After that he actually wound up owning Detonics briefly.

    Try the Survivalist drinking game....You could make a drinking game out of looking for ‘Metalifed Python’, ‘A.G. Russel Sting’, ‘Alessi shoulder rig’, and ‘Detonics’. Empty the entire pitcher when he ‘whispers’ something that any other normal person would say in a regular talking voice.
     
  4. MstrPara

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    I read ALL of them......in the 80's......when I was 15. I liked them a lot then, but doubt I'd even bother now.
     
  5. 9mm +p+

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    Got the whole set, it's still fun to read.
     
  6. dissthis

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    I read some of the series as a kid...part of what got me into survival-ism...

    I have most of the collection...missing a few (3 books)...I am re-reading now for the fun of it...

    I have noticed (as an adult) some things don't really make since...he rides a motorcycle WHILE shooting, and reloading his M-16 with his right hand...

    There are a few good points but yeah its hokey
     
  7. quake

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    Back then the term survivalist was nearly synonymous with 'militia nutjob' or even 'mercenary wannabe' in usage. Agree with you, there wasn't much in the books regarding what we here think of as 'survivalism'; the simple realities of existence even without infrastructure support.

    The detonics were his most-used guns, but that was largely because they were his ccw guns. He did carry a full-size 1911, once he got back to his supplies and was able to re-outfit.

    That said, we also have to remember that we just didn't have the handgun options back then that are available now. There were very few - if any - high-capacity compact handguns at the time to speak of. Even the 'compact' beretta - which was still bigger than a current glock 19 - wasn't around back then, and that one was a major groundbreaker in its own right. The detonics combatmaster was neither lightweight nor high-capacity (I still have one), but they were was as small as a .380 auto of the time:
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    Being that compact, shooting full-bore .45 ammunition, and holding only one less round of .45acp ammo than the full-size govt model that was really "the king" back then, really made it a stunning option considering how limited the options were. At the time it stood nearly on its own, at least as far as factory-available concealed-handgun options. Not much other than the ASP or such (at least as far as I recall) could really match the detonics for a compact carry gun back then. Their counterwound recoil-spring system actually made for lower recoil & faster follow-up shots than with a full-size normal .45 auto as well. I brought home some ipsc class 'b' trophies with that tiny .45 back in the 90's; they shoot softer than a blowback .380 if you can believe that.

    Obviously, a very different world now; but 30+ years ago the choices among major-caliber, concealable handguns (and handgun ammo) were extremely limited. A pair of PPK/s-sized .45acp's loaded with federal 185jhp was imo a very good setup, especially with their improved recoil system and considering the very-limited options at the time.
     
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  8. yellowhand

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    Jerry Ahearn still writes a piece each issue of the Blue Press from Dillions I believe, if same guy, same name and seems like same style, still loves his detonics:wavey:
     
  9. Allfal

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    Twin detonics .45's carried in an alessi double shoulder holster rig with either 1 or 2 Milt Sparks 6 pack mag holders.

    A metalifed magnaported 6" colt python on a belt holster with 2 speed loaders and a dump pouch.

    A Colt car 15 that he never kept a round in the chamber of, since he had to pull back the charging handle prior to every gun fight.

    A cave in the mountains with a weighted hidden door with a hidden spring running inside, limitless electrical power and an unlimited supply of food, ammo, vehicles, spare parts and whiskey.

    Are you really trying to say this story wasn't based on what reality would be in that situation?
     
  10. Allfal

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    Sorry, I missed your post the first time i skimmed this thread. The idea of a drinking game for the series is probably the best way to enjoy them. Given the number of times those phrases are used, it may lead to alcoholism though. It's been quite some time since I read them. They are for entertainment only, with no useful info for actual preps. With this drinking game idea, I may actualy re read some.
     
  11. Commander_Zero

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    They are usually lumped under the catch-all of 'mens adventure'.
     
  12. Stevekozak

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    Ha ha... if I did that, I would have been dead drunk by page 50!! :rofl: The book is really comical. Kind of a ************ fanstasy for teenage boys with hot women and all powerful main character. The author skips around changes things at will in the blink of an eye. Rourke is crash landing the plane on 5 miles of smooth desert, somehow, in the middle of this, after he has touched it down, he inexplicably turns the plane and drives it into a stand of pine trees (which did not exist half a page before) killing several of the passengers. And somehow, teh radiation that came throught the viewscreen during atomic flashes, that melted the faces of other ppl, did not harm him at all, but did irradiate his clothes and Rolex watch (luckily he carried another similarly expensive Rolex watch in his carry on, as do we all....) Man, I kept reading for the humor of it all..as I almost whispered to myself..."can this be real"!! :dunno:
     
  13. dissthis

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    FYI

    Jerry Ahern passed away on Tuesday of cancer...
     
  14. RIP. I might have laughed a few times while reading your books, but you were still a great storyteller. :sadangel:
     
  15. mac66

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    RIP Jerry.

    The audio books of the Survivor are available online somewhere. I listened to most of them driving back and forth to work, 10 or so years ago. I admit they keep me somewhat entertained during my long commute. If you think the first ones are stupid, wait until you get to....well I am not going to spoil it but the story gets way out there.:whistling::supergrin: and I just couldn't listen anymore.
     
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  16. MstrPara

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    Wow! RIP Mr Ahern.

    I enjoyed his books while growing up, and liked his monthly gear review column (I think it's in Gun World)?
     
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    That well and truly SUCKS! I liked his writing, RIP sir.
     
  18. Stevekozak

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    I am sorry to hear that. It is a hard way to go.
     
  19. DarkShooter

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    Never read his material from the Survivalist era, but I did enjoy his articles in the Blue Press and Gun World.


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