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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by LT642, Nov 30, 2011.


  1. LT642

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    For those who choose to carry a j-frame as an off duty weapon what setups are you using? I pocket carry my 642 off duty, especially during the hot South Florida summers. I've tried belt carry, but I've always thought that if I'm going to put on a owb holster, I'll carry "more" gun.

    Any input as to how you carry your j-frame would be appreciated, just curious what setups others have tried and what you decided was best for you when you carry a j-frame.
     

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  2. CAcop

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    I have a Tucker iwb that can be concealed uner a tucked in shirt.
     

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    Even though it is only ounces....I definitely notice the difference between a pocket carried 15 oz 642, and say an 11 oz 342 or 340PD.

    If I was carrying IWB or OWB, no sense at all in pack a little J-bird. Might as well step up to a G26 that has twice the firepower and a very quick reload....
     
  4. MeefZah

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    That's exactly my thoughts on a J frame being carried OWB... why?

    I'd opt for a bigger belt gun if I were going OWB.

    I personally don't like IWB carry.

    I do carry my J frame off duty most generally on my ankle, same place I carry on duty. I use a Renegade (I think it is model 51 or 52...?). Has a wide strap to go over the hamerless section of the backstrap and is very comfortable and secure.

    I sometimes drop it in a pocket without a holster, but that's mainly because I haven't found a good pocket holster yet. I only do that on "I'll be right back" kind of errands. I have tried Desantis Nemesis and RKBA pocket holsters, and I thought both were okay, but nothing great. I'm looking for a used Kramer horsehide, but if I can't find one used I suppose after Christmas I will cough up the $100 for one new.
     
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  5. NMG26

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    I use a Remora Holster. It is a no clip tuck/pocket holster.
    I mostly appendix carry.

    I have a Ruger LCR and a S&W 638


    I carry a 5 shot speed strip in my front pocket.

    When shooting I always practice with the speed strips.
     
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    I use the Desantis Nemesis pocket rig, but latley hav been using a Galco Summer Special in Black leather IWB. Great little setup up with a speedloader or speed strip in my weak side pocket.

    Small gun small easy on and off rig conceals great. I wear it about the 230 position.
     
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  7. Ajon412

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    +1 for pocket carry......I currently use a Mika Pocket holster for my 640 and CA Bulldog. I'm also fond of the Uncle Mikes #3 and #4. I find the Mika more functional, as it has an "open mouth" design that doesn't close up after the weapon is drawn. These also work better if wearing cargo shorts and not jeans... It can be carried in either pocket for OD BUG use or as a primary. I also like the IWB / appendix carry as well. I also strongly agree with the idea of carrying at least one reload / speed strips, if not more...Tuff Products has speed strips in just about every caliber and neat belt pouchs to hold them...
     
  8. MeefZah

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    Hmmm, I always carry speedloaders or strips in the STRONG side pocket since I switch the gun to my left hand, holding it by the open cylinder and frame, and use the right (strong) to reload it.

    I kinda thought that was the way. No?
     
  9. Ajon412

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    I was thinking the same thing...
     
  10. msu_grad_121

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    I agree, but I have seen a revolver reload put forth wherein the gun never leaves your right hand, and in fact, you never lose your firing grip on it. It looked a little convoluted to me, but he guy made it wrk, and pretty stinkin quick, too.
     
  11. Ship A'Hoy

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    I don't use anything but the Desantis Nemesis pocket holster in the summer for my S&W 442.

    I'm also right handed and keep my speed loaders/strips on my support side. The gun never leaves my right hand for reloading. It's fast and less chance to drop the gun.
     
  12. CallMeIshmael

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    I also carry a M-642 S&W J-Frame. I use a Kramer pocket holster most of the time although I replaced the little boot grip with a larger Pachmayr® SJ-C grip #03252. This grip is slightly larger than the "boot" grip the gun came with but it makes shooting it a lot easier. This grip though makes front pocket carry concealed impossible so I carry the gun in my back pocket covered (usually) by a Hawaiian shirt (I live in South Florida). Other times I use a DeSantis Cozy Partner. This is my second Cozy Partner, the first one not having the reinforcing band that the second one has. Both are very comfortable, the first being more comfortable but without the reinforcing band I have to virtually take my pants off to reholster the gun. The second Cozy Partner is not quite as comfortable but it has the reinforcing band making reholstering easy. I prefer the second for that reason.

    I also have two ankle holsters, a Top-Line (padded nylon with a mid-calf support strap and an Alessi which I almost never wear. The Alessi is leather and very bulky with no mid-calf support which is why it stays in the shoe box. The Top-Line is almost 20 years old and was originally purchased for a M-60 S&W J-Frame which I used to own. I had the velcro retention strap relocated on it by a shoe repair shop to retain the internal hammer 642. This holster is very comfortable so much so I sometimes forget I'm wearing it.

    I hope this helps.
     
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    :thumbsup:...Randall, good article and I've read it before on your site...Covers both methods of reloading. Use whichever works for you and as you've mentioned, carry at least 1 reload, if not more..Just my .02.....:wavey:
     
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  15. CallMeIshmael

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    I also carry a M-642 S&W J-Frame. I use a Kramer pocket holster most of the time although I replaced the little "boot" grip with a larger Pachmayr® SJ-C grip #03252. This grip is slightly larger than the "boot" grip the gun came with but it makes shooting it a lot easier. This grip though makes front pocket concealed carry impossible so I carry the gun in my back pocket covered (usually) by a Hawaiian shirt (I live in South Florida). Other times I use a DeSantis Cozy Partner®. This is my second Cozy Partner®, the first one not having the reinforcing band that the second one has. Both are very comfortable but without the reinforcing band on the first Cozy Partner® reholstering requires me to virtually take my pants off. With the reinforcing band on the second Cozy Partner® this is not necessary and that holster is still very comfortable.

    I also have two ankle holsters, a padded nylon Top-Line with a top of the calf velcro support strap and a leather Alessi which I never wear. The Alessi is bulky and has no top of the calf support strap so it stays in the shoe box until the day I can get somebody to buy it. The Top-Line was originally purchased to hold a S&W M-60 (which has an external hammer) so I had the retention strap moved by a shoe repair shop to hold the internal hammer M-642. This holster is so comfortable that I often forget I'm wearing it.
    I hope this helps.
     
  16. fastbolt

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    I'm with you, LT642.

    While I've previously used belt holsters, and still own a handful of them for J-frames, I typically tend to use a pocket holster. If I feel like using a belt holster, I'll generally choose from among my larger guns. I think the gun ought to weigh more than the holster. :rofl:

    Back when I was teaching at conferences or attending out-of-town meetings I'd sometimes slip an Airweight into a pocket holster and carry in the front pocket of my suit slacks. Handier that way. I could remove my suit or sport coat and remain unobtrusively armed.

    I look at ankle carry as being something more of a special circumstance carry method, meaning it's pretty practical and easy when seated in a vehicle. Otherwise, I have no interest in ankle carry.

    I actually have one of those slick little Ken Null plastic pull-through shoulder rigs I bought many years ago (for a SP101). I can't remember the last time I used it, though. I came across it the other day and idly thought that maybe I should try to put it back into use sometime.
     
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    Thoughts on the Kramer?

    I use and love the MSP Paddle for my Glocks, and I want to pull the trigger on a Kramer pocket holster... but $100... talk me into it.
     
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    I have a Kramer for my 642, but prefer the nemesis. The Kramer came with the gun (bought it used). It's a nice holster, but not as "grippy" in the pocket.
     
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    When I carry my 642 I use the Mika pocket holster with a Bianchi speedstrip for a reload.
     
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    All summer, if I'm not working, my 642 sits A-IWB in an ancient Bianchi IWB holster that's probably older than me (got it for $2 out of a used holster bin soon after I got my first j-frame, a year after I started in 1994). If I'm working, or slumming around in sweats or my fancyman AF wind pants, it's likely on my ankle in a renegade.

    If I'm carrying on my IWB belt and it's not hot out, I carry my duty gun in a CTAC.

    I have a 27, and need to order a new Ankle Glove. I gave my newer one away and my old one isn't serviceable anymore.