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Discussion in 'The Kalashnikov Klub' started by Paddy, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. Paddy

    Paddy Glocktastic!

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    Got my first AK recently via a trade. ITM Arms Co. MK99 receiver, and it looks to be a Romanian stamp on the barrel trunnion, it's an empty triangle. Came with Tapco furniture: Galil style front grip, SAW style pistol grip and T6 collapsible stock, as well as the G2 trigger group. I'll be taking it out on Saturday, so I'll have a range report then.

    In the meantime I've been researching scope mount options. I could get the side rail mount and rivet it into the receiver, I could get a receiver cover with a picatinny rail, or I could replace the front grip with a quad rail front grip. I've heard of a scope mount that replaces the rear sight leaf, but I can't seem to find one anywhere. The side rail mount seems like the most stable option but I don't have the rivet tool or the funds to take it to a gunsmith. The receiver cover mounts don't keep their zero worth a damn since the cover moves around, and I've heard the same about the front grip mounts. What do you guys think?
     
  2. CarlosC

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    You know I have to do this....

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  3. Paddy

    Paddy Glocktastic!

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    w00t! I was hoping to get that welcome! :wavey:
     
  4. 9mm +p+

    9mm +p+

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    Welcome to the dark side and congrats! Personally I wouldn't mess with trying to have an accessory rail riveted on the receiver and SKIP the receiver cover mount altogether. That leaves a quad rail or an UltiMak gas tube rail, personally I like the UltiMak. Quad rails are kind of pricey and add alot more rail than is necessary IMO, there's a new quad rail out by Midwest ind. but I don't like being the test guinea pig myself so I'd wait a bit on them until the reviews come out. I've got the UltiMak on one of my Arsenals and I can attest that is a solid piece of gear and wll worth the $.
     
  5. 1 old 0311

    1 old 0311

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    Why do you want a scope? ALL AK's will shoot man size targets 150-200 with open sites and with a scope it ain't going to get much better.

    I have owned 8-10 in the past and EVERY ONE has been flawlessly reliable with the exception of a $1000 Arsenal. Go figure. I have a WASR now and while it is ugly as hell in 2000+ rounds it has been perfect!
     
  6. Paddy

    Paddy Glocktastic!

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    I don't want a high end scope or anything, maybe a red dot sight or a 2x magnification so I can actually see the dot in the middle of the target at 200 yards.
     
  7. my762buzz

    my762buzz

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    Sorry, thats simply not true of all varients. Not all of them were built with heavily worn barrels and loose parts. Ammo quality makes a huge difference. Using better sites and/or a scope can make a big difference also.
    It also helps to have a front post sight that doesn't cover most of a 12x12
    target sheet.
     
  8. Paddy

    Paddy Glocktastic!

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    Any input on the rear sight leaf replacement I've heard so little about?
     
  9. sputnik767

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    That's true. With proper ammo and maybe better sights, I don't think it would be that far off from an AR. But people shoot Wolf out of their worn out WASRs, get 3-4 inch groups at 100 yards, and then carp about how inaccurate the platform is. My Yugo, with it's brand new, US-made barrel will get 0.25-0.5 inch grouping at 25 yards with Wolf ammo. And I am not an expert marksman by far, so I'm pretty sure it can do better.
     
  10. batoncolle

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    There are several that replace the rear sight leaf.

    1. Larue has a FF or Docter/mount combo that is currently being retooled. It's a good lightweight combo.

    Then there are several Beryl style mounts.

    2. The Krebs is top of the line, but it's not cheap. http://www.krebscustom.com/PartsPages/KalashnikovParts.shtml#REARRAIL I have one on my Krebs KTR-08, and it's rock solid. I highly recommend it, and I think it's the best out there right now.
    3. TWS Dogleg rail - I have one of the original beta rails, and it's a very good and cheaper alternative to the Krebs. http://texasweaponsystems.com/ He's also making a 2nd generation that looks very interesting, and you can see it in this thread on ARFcom: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=56&t=111659&page=26 (scroll down towards the bottom on this page)
    4. I have also heard good things about DPH Arms, but I have never tried it. Note: this one does not require removal of the rear sight leaf. http://dpharms.com/akberylstylescoperailwquickdetach-p-1000.html

    And there are also several others out there, but I can't recall them offhand...maybe Midwest Industries. Do a search on beryl style mounts, and you should find them. I'm thinking the others are cheaper alternatives. I did buy a cheaper polymer beryl style rail just to see if I would like the setup so I know they are out there.

    I would also recommend that you look into the Ultimak/Aimpoint H1/T1 combo. I have that setup on one of my AKs, and it is really nice.
     
  11. Paddy

    Paddy Glocktastic!

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    Thank you VERY much for the input! I might get one of those.

    Took the AK out and I LOVE IT! I've also discovered the joys of bump firing :whistling:

    All in all, considering I only put 400 into the gun I traded for this thing, it's a pretty sweet find! Didn't jam at all, and I was using cheap dirty Wolf ammo.