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Issues with Wolf Ammo

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by KiloBravo, Aug 1, 2010.


  1. KiloBravo

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    So, I have shot a couple hundred rounds worth of .223 wolf in my AR in the past without one single issue. Well, after today, I am totally finished with using anymore of it.

    I was able to duplicate an empty case seizing up TIGHT in the chamber at the range today. The ammo was also slowing down the BCG enough to where it was not able to strip the next round from the magazine. I barely got through my first box of the crap. I am glad I only bought 3 boxes total. I will probably just give away the rest of it to somebody who can shoot it.

    I was inspecting the ammo, and I noticed a few things I had not in my previous batch of Wolf. There were mixed match colored primers, and there felt to be little uneven burs on the mouth of the case where it meets the bullet.

    I did check out the chamber on my rifle with a flash light, and could not see any type of scarring. I just hope it did not cause any sort of problems. It has run 100% up until today.
     

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    I have noticed that they seem to be a little under powered. One of my rifles won't cycle with Wolf ammo.
     

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    Does your gun have a chrome lined chamber?
     
  4. KiloBravo

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    Yes Sir. Chrome lined barrel and chamber. That is what surprised me.
     
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    More Wolf for the rest of us to shoot!
     
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    I've never had Wolf seize up of fail to function in my AR15's. I have had one blown primer.

    The various color primers is pretty common in Wolf steel cased ammo. I see it all the time in their 7.62x39 ammo.
     
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    Did you decide who you're going to give it away to? You want my address?
     
  8. KiloBravo

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    I actually just traded it for two boxes of Federal 5.56 X 45 today to my buddy after getting home from the range.

    I think it was actually just one bad box. The Wolf I have shot before functioned fine. Oh well. I shot a couple boxes of Remington UMC today to show myself the issues were ammo related, and it ran flawlessly. I am happy again. :supergrin:
     
  9. HAIL CAESAR

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    Wolf ammo is cheap blasting and training ammo. Some will eat the junk, some will not. It is not a ammo to use for anything serious, or to judge your gun by.

    But if you have a gun marked 5.56 but is really a .223 chamber...Wolf will point that out to you quickly.
    I have shot a truckload of the stuff over the years, but it is junk.
     
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    True that...My rifle is marked for both cartridges, and I have shot a lot of each. The thing that sucks is that I have always had great results with Wolf up until yesterday. The price it is locally though makes me tend to stick with just the brass cased stuff anyway. There is not really any substancial savings on either or, so I buy the stuff I can reload. :supergrin:
     
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    You might check you chamber to see if it is really a 5.56 and not a .223. That is a very common issue.
     
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    This is an honest question...Do you think I should check it even if the received is stamped for both? If so, how would I go about doing that? Just drop a round of each in the chamber or what?

    ETA: I shot four boxes of brass stuff today total, as mentioned above. Two boxes of the UMC, and two boxes of WWB 5.56. I wanted to see if it would have problems with either or, but it ran like a champ.
     
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    I was a gun department manager in a sporting goods store for a couple years before I got into nuclear security. I saw bad rounds and boxes of rounds, and even entire bad lots from nearly every ammo manufacturer. We had .22's that were blowing up from Remington ammo, which was from a lot they later recalled. We sent back some recalled pistol ammo from Winchester. I still have a round of Federal .44 Special ammo with the bullet loaded upside down. I have a couple rounds of Speer .40 S&W ammo with the primers seated sideways. And you had one bad box of Wolf? It happens.
     
  14. HAIL CAESAR

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    If you have a Oly, Bushmaster, or DPMS then it is entirely possible you might have a undersized barrel.

    I always use a 5.56 chamber reamer.
     
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    He said it has a chrome lined barrel and chamber. That means it's almost 100% certain to not be a DPMS or Oly, and all the Bushmasters with chrome lined barrels have 5.56 chambers.
     
  16. HAIL CAESAR

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    5.56 chamber reamers say different. I have reamed several Bushy's. Barrels were marked 5.56, but were .223 chambers. Actually I have no idea if they were .223 and suspect they were tighter that that.


    Just because they are marked one way, from certain manufacturers DO NOT rely on the markings.
     
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  17. PlasticGuy

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    You reamed the chambers of chrome lined barrels? Really?
     
  18. Constructor

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    A carbide reamer will take it out like it was plain metal.
    not that you would want to but...
     
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  19. HAIL CAESAR

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    Yeap, take it out like butter.

    A lot of people don't like it, but when a nickle and dime company sells you a out of spec barrel that is marked 5.56 there ain't no way to fix it but ream it.
     
  20. Constructor

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    If you want to use Wolf you can tune the rifle to run on wolf.
    We do this same procedure with our professional grade rigs except it is tuned with what ever ammo the customer shoots.
    First change to a "SSS" spring or "Tactical Springs" op spring to give it some power when things get dirty and sticky, swap the buffer to an H2 so it will have a little weight behind it to move the carrier forward and strip a round from the mag. Now the tougher part is enlarging the port to cycle the heavier buffer and stiffer spring with weaker ammo. In a carbine location it is easy, probably starts out around .063 from the factory just start drilling in .005 increments until it cycles just make sure the gas block is over the port and tight to prevent leaks.
    If it is a mid gas then it shoud be around .076-.083 still possible but not as much room before hitting .099 which I think is about max for port sizes even though I have seen some as large as 1/8".
    One other thing that helps with steel cases, Tetra oil on a .410 bore mop in the chamber then remove the excess.