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Is this considered open carry?

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by crash_gsxr750, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. crash_gsxr750

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    In my State, Yes, until you cover it!
     

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    Depends on your state. In Michigan many consider it a "gray area". If you ask me yeah that would be considered open carry but again it depends on your state. Although I strongly recommend NOT open carrying in an IWB holster as the retention is horrible compared to a good OWB holster. Also carrying it in that position leaves you more susceptible to a gun grab. If you're going to open carry get a good OWB holster.
     
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    There's no clear answer, it depends on the exact wording of your state's law. I would NOT carry openly like that, however, just too much potential trouble.

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    Well I live in michigan

    I ask only out of curiosity, as I have my CPL so I'm a shirt flip away from concealed
     
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    Well how does your legislation describe what "open" means? Handgunlaw.us

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    So do you open carry or carry concealed?
     
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    Blaster Hunc tu caveto

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    I fail to see any grey area. If you can see it it is open carry.

    It makes no sense to me to mince words over how much of the weapon or holster is exposed. Kinda like being a little bit pregnant. You either are or you are not.
     
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    I carry concealed, I just had a question I knew I could get answered or pointed on right direction
     
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    I'm from Michigan too. Like I said it's a "grey area". There was a guy arrested for carry concealed in an IWB holster. It never went to trial because he took a plea bargain. If you plan on OCing in a place where you can CC go for it since you have a CPL. But if you plan on OCing into a place where CC is illegal, for example a school, I would highly discourage OCing in an IWB and very much encourage an OWB holster.
     
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    I have a Blackhawk serpa (I think it's what it's called, it has a lever to release pistol)

    That's what I use for CC/OC times

    When I'm just CC I use my IWB
     
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    According to what I heard Sheriff Joe saying on TV one time back when AZ still required CC permits, it would be legal open carry. He said "if any part of it is visible, it's legal." Of course now that we have CC with no permit needed it would not matter.

    Too bad this doesn't help you in Michigan.
     
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    Serpa would be perfect for OC.
     
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    Basically, if you ask someone the question; "What's that?" and they answer; "It's a gun.", it's open carry.
     
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    http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10188.htmSeems clear, but the opinion was written for reserve officers who open carry with exposed holsters, not IWB holsters.

    Does it still apply to IWB holsters. And AG opinions are not necessarily legally binding, are they?

    Like someone said, IWB is a grey area. Until there's case law, its a risk.

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    AG opinions are just their opinions, they hold no weight of law (even though they sort of do reference suppressors). Additionally the opinion you are referring to referenced that a reserve officer, just like any citizen, can openly carry in a holster. So it really doesn't just apply to them.
     
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    In Virginia, that can be considered OC, if your shirt is tucked in. Some guys may say too much is hidden so it's concealed, but IMO it is open, I wouldn't ask for a CHP.
     
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    Didn't say it only applies to them, but they carry in exposed holsters, so it definitely applies to exposed holsters. However, IWB, a concealed holster, could that be considered different? Less exposed? Maybe, may not be covered. Depends on the agenda of the prosecutor interpreting it.

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