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Is the G17 easier to shoot than the G22?

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by nternal, Feb 8, 2012.

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  1. nternal

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    I asked about these guns in an earlier post but I really should have asked:
    Which gun is easier to put rounds on target... the G17 or the G22?
     
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    Well, the 9mm generally has less felt recoil.

    There's your answer.
     

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    115gr 9mm has a lot less recoil, but the 124gr -127gr s+P loadings I don't think there is much of a difference between the two. Now if you on the other hand compare the G19 & G23 I think the G23 had a good bit more snap when using anything over 135gr. 135gr in the 40S&W is very much like shooting a 9mm, but I'm really not so sure that 135gr in the 40S&W is a good choice due to a possible lack of penetration.

    One thing I have noticed is that I find the 9mm more accurate, and NOT because I can't handle 40S&W recoil (for those of you who will comment). My favorite caliber is 10mm Auto and I regularly handload full power loads for hunting so recoil IMO has not a thing to do with it. I honestly believe the 40S&W is not inherently as accurate as the 9mm, 45, & 10mm (at least in a Glock - not tried 40S&W in a non Glock). Btw I have a Gen 4 G23, and it's plenty accurate for self defense. Just not as accurate as the Gen 3 G17 I owned in the past, or the G30SF I owned, nor is it as accurate as my G20SF.

    It could be that I am personally just not as good with a 40S&W as I am with other calibers, but I've witnessed others who have noticed the same. This is just my experience, and I'm sure others will chime in shortly.
     
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    Depends, if you do not have all the other fundamentals down, like grip, sights, trigger control, then the 9mm is just as hard to shoot as the .40 cal. Recoil control for fast follow up shots means nothing if they are fast follow up misses.

    I really don't see much difference between the recoil of a hot 9mm and a 40 cal by the way


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    You can definitely put a lot more rounds on target with the G17 than you can the G22 (load dependent). But then again it's all about practice and proficiency. I had practiced shooting my G30SF so much that I could double tap rounds out of that thing thing as accurately and as fast as I could a G17 9mm when I owned one. Practice is the decisive factor, but you will be more proficient with a 9mm and less practice than other calibers. 9mm is also a really good round to start out with. The G17 was my first Glock and still one of my favorites.
     
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    well for the first round, they should be identical. but for follow up rounds, the 9mm, with less energy and recoil, will definitely be quicker than the .40.
     
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    Is that because of recoil?
     
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    I've read the Gen 4s have less recoil. Would that change the comparison?
     
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    The 9mm in an apples to apples comparison of .40 loads generates less muzzle blast and recoil. If shooting your basic target loads or carry loads in both calibers the 9mm is usally easier to shoot. One caveat. If I shoot NATO or +P 9mm loads versus say TULA 180gr. .40 loads the TULA is very mild. But this is more an apples to oranges comparison. Another thing I have to say.
    I didn't really want a G22 but got a perfect (and I mean like new) G22 police trade in at a price to good to pass up. I have G17 mags and recoil assemblies already. So I bought a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel for the G22. It works perfect. And an AA .22 G17/22 conversion kit for it. So I have a three caliber gun in the G22. Four if I wanted a .357 SIG barrel. You can't do that with a G17. The .22 kit yes. For $325.00 out the door with nightsights and 3 mags, $125.00 for the Storm Lake Match barrel (and it does shoot tight groups), $265.00 for the AA conversion I basically got 3 guns (four if I want the .357 SIG) for less than the price of two. As much as I love the G17 you don't have the versatility of the G22. And if you want to add Lone Wolf Uppers or lowers you can do allot more interesting things with the guns. Or TDS uppers with slide cuts for RDS set ups. Lots of versatility for one gun. Don't know of any other guns with that much versatility. If their are they are probably Glocks.
     
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    How about 147 gr 9mm vs 180 gr .40 cal?
     
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    Oops. This was answered and...

    Thanx everyone. Your comments have been very helpful and appreciated.

    In all likelihood I'll be sticking with the G17 I just picked up (but haven't yet taken to the range). If, at some future date, I decide to sell it and switch to a .40 or .45 cal will I take a total pounding on the resale?
     
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    The Gen 4 G22 has less recoil than the Gen 3. It makes the G22 shoot almost like a G17.
     
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    With proper handgun shooting technique the question "which caliber is easier to shoot" becomes obsolete.. Learn, train, shoot them all...
     
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    Yes....like cheap escort on New Years eve.

    Since there is no real difference in effectiveness, going with the cheaper to shoot pistol sounds like a good idea. Especially if your shooting budget is tight, as it appears to be.
     
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  20. nternal

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    Ok... then what does a G17 shoot like now? ;)
     
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