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Is prostitution really just capitalism?

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Gunhaver, Dec 4, 2012.


  1. certifiedfunds

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    Then what we should really do is address the root cause and ban the sexual victimization in their early life.

    I think most people would prefer that prostitution and drug addiction didn't exist in our society. However, it does and always will no matter what the laws say.

    By keeping prostitution illegal, the government pushes them into the shadows so that they cannot seek remedy from the judicial system, for crimes committed against them and thusly invites violence into their lives.
     

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    We sure are full up to the brim with social problems we don't have a clue how to fix, aren't we?
     

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    Basic economics folks,find a need and market the product.My knowledge is a by-product of my experience.'08.
     
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    Yup..
     
  6. Gundude

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    And if we made guns illegal, criminals wouldn't be able to use them in crimes, right?

    Criminals will sexually victimize women whether prostitution is legal or not. Legalizing it gives prostitutes legal protection and legal recourse when they are victimized.
     
  7. Bren

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    How is doing harm to somebody else by force the same as one person selling a service to another who wants to buy it? You sure say some goofy things.

    OP, yes, prostitution is just capitalism. Like many other things, the primary reason it is illegal is that wives have a great deal of political power (remember prohibition) and don't care for the competition. Criminalizing prostitution is no more than a way to regulate competition, by those selling the service under long-term contract, who don't want to compete with those selling on a cash & carry basis.
     
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  8. Gunhaver

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    Wow. I never really thought about it that way but I think you're on to something there.
     
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    I didn't say whether to legalize it or not. I just pointed out that the people who use prostitutes are continuing a pattern of abuse that is what got these women to be prostitutes in the first place (the line about being a college girl making extra tuition money is just marketing).

    And, just like the people who commit crimes with guns, I doubt the men using prostitutes care whether it's legal or illegal.
     
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    There will always be people who are in desperate circumstances who will do things to survive or to try to improve their lot in life. Sometimes the things they do aren't the best choice and/or have risks to themselves. As long as these things don't violate the rights of others, what reason does government have to make them illegal? The kind of prostitution we are talking about decriminalizing here are the voluntary transactions conducted in private between *consenting adults.* It's specifically because of the illegal nature of prostitution that there is human trafficking and abusive pimps. Trafficking, abusive and coercive pimping, and underage prostitution can, and should, remain illegal.
     
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    Its a public health threat and therefore not a victimless crime or a simple business deal.
     
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    How would you tackle this public health threat?

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  13. Gunhaver

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    So STDs and pregnancy only happen when money is exchanged?

    Guns are also a public health threat. How do you feel about your rights being restricted because of other's irresponsibility.

    I've seen you all over the Walking Dead forum talking about who you'd bang and who you wouldn't. You can't really be that uptight about sex.
     
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    It's an unpopular business with government because they have not figured out how to tax it. Government will approve anything that raises taxes.

    Besides, health care to the affected ones is free under Obamacare. Penalize (no pun intended) the offer'ers if they do not have frequent health inspections and pay their taxes. I haven't decided whether this is a VAT or Sales and Use Tax catagory.
     
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    So, you're for banning unhealthy foods, fast food, tobacco, and alcohol?

    Just what we need, a nanny in the bedroom.
     
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    Being serviced by a hooker is a walk away,guns are a way ta stop getting robbed after being serviced.

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    I hear ya ... What drives women into it is a separate issue though. As adults, by labeling the activity (consenting adults in a voluntary transaction) as illegal and amoral we drastically increase the likelihood of victimization of prostitutes.

    If the activity is legitimized/legalized, she (or I guess he) is much more able to assert herself and protect herself in every facet. The pimps and abusers thrive on being under the radar and in the shadows. Take that cover away and that bad element starts to disappear and we go a long way towards minimizing victimization.


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  18. Cavalry Doc

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    Buyer beware. Sounds good enough for me. People should all know by now that exchanging bodily fluids can be risky. Having worked in STD clinics during training, I think I'll pass, even if I was single.
     
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    The mental gymnastics you guys accomplish to justify banning things you don't like is outstanding. I'm more impressed each and every time.

    I would point out that sex in general is a public health threat, but I wouldn't be suprised if you wanted sex in general banned, so maybe it actually makes sense in your mind.
     
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  20. Gunhaver

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    I wonder if compulsory STD testing coupled with mandatory tattooing for those that test positive in hidden places that only a potential partner would see would go a long way towards preventing the spread (of STDs).

    Failing that people should know that blood drives are a great place to meet clean women. Only porn stars are tested more frequently than regular blood donors.