close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Is +P 9mm ok to use in the G19 gen4

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by ninjag19, Feb 9, 2013.


  1. ninjag19

    ninjag19
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    178
    0
    With all the ammo disappearing rapidly here in New Jersey, I was thinking of picking up some +P ammo which seems somewhat available. Can the Glock handle a good dose of it? Thanks!
     

    Wanna kill these ads? We can help!
  2. Tarowah

    Tarowah
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2009
    954
    0
    Location:
    Greensboro, NC
    Yes you can shoot +p and +P+ by the truckload and your Glock will not even break a sweat.
     

  3. Supertuck

    Supertuck
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2011
    289
    3
    Location:
    Kentucky
    This!
     
  4. MotoGlock

    MotoGlock
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2011
    359
    56
    Location:
    Dirty L.A.
    Go for it!
     
  5. JBP55

    JBP55
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2007
    9,626
    241
    Location:
    Louisiana
    What they said.
     
  6. itstime

    itstime
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2006
    7,176
    14
    Location:
    USA
    Yes. No problems.
     
  7. Bruce M

    Bruce M
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2010
    38,435
    9,074
    Location:
    S FL
    You will most likely run out of money or available ammunition long before the G19 has issues related to +p ammunition.
     
  8. Inebriated

    Inebriated
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2012
    2,435
    52
    I've shot a ton of +P through my Glocks.

    Plus, Glocks are generally designed for LE and MIL use, where +P pressures are possibly all the guns ever see.
     
  9. DannyR

    DannyR
    Expand Collapse
    Moderator Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 1998
    19,691
    104
    Location:
    Roanoke, Virginia
    9mm Glocks are designed for NATO spec ammo, which is hotter than +P. Your Glock will handle more +P than you can ever afford to buy.
     
  10. ElrodCod

    ElrodCod
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2005
    593
    0
    Location:
    Northeast Tennessee
    This comes up on a regular basis on the web. I'd like for someone to show some documentation from Glock that says that they were designed for NATO spec ammo. I'd also like to see documentation that NATO spec 9mm ammo is "hotter" than +P because I don't think that it is or it would be marked +P+. Who's got the proof? Let's all see it.
     
  11. Lowjiber

    Lowjiber
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2012
    941
    1
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    I don't have "documentation", but researched the NATO stuff a while back and found it to be same-same-water-buffalo as +P.

    As far as Glock engineers are concerned, documentation might be a bit hard to pry from their fingers.:whistling:
     
  12. DannyR

    DannyR
    Expand Collapse
    Moderator Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 1998
    19,691
    104
    Location:
    Roanoke, Virginia
    In 1982, Glock designed the G17 to meet the NATO spec requirement of the military contract, which they won. Glock 9's have been designed for NATO spec ever since. Remember, Glock is a global company, and most other countries use NATO spec 9mm ammo.
     
  13. DannyR

    DannyR
    Expand Collapse
    Moderator Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 1998
    19,691
    104
    Location:
    Roanoke, Virginia
    Winchester 124-gr NATO Spec = 1,185fps

    Gold Dot 124-gr +P = 1,220 fps

    Blazer 124-gr FMJ = 1,080 fps
     
  14. ElrodCod

    ElrodCod
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2005
    593
    0
    Location:
    Northeast Tennessee
    On the surface it seems that the Nato spec is at the +P level not "hotter than +P+" but that's not the end of the story. Pressure is the determining factor in the +P designation not fps. The jury is still out.
     
  15. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster
    Expand Collapse
    Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    17,769
    544
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    Go for it. Your G19 won't even break a sweat.
     
  16. ninjag19

    ninjag19
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    178
    0
    Thanks guys! That makes me feel better, now to get some ammo! What the heck is going on with all the bullets missing, especially 9mm? Is this the new version of the "gas crisis"? Does anyone know a good supplier who has ammo and is not gouging?
     
  17. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster
    Expand Collapse
    Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    17,769
    544
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    Try MidwayUSA.
     
  18. DannyR

    DannyR
    Expand Collapse
    Moderator Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 1998
    19,691
    104
    Location:
    Roanoke, Virginia
    It's not the manufacturers. It is the paranoid, panic stricken gun owners that are buying up all available ammo, including .22LR.:whistling:
     
  19. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster
    Expand Collapse
    Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    17,769
    544
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    The buyers recognize that we have a very anti-gun POTUS who in not concerned about getting re-elected. If it weren't for the GOP HR, I'd say that our gun rights are in serious trouble.
     
  20. bentbiker

    bentbiker
    Expand Collapse
    NRA Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    4,554
    5
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Is everybody aware of Glock's stated position on this?
    "Glock suggests using ammunition that is manufactured and meets SAAMI or industry specifications. If you are not sure the ammunition brand or type you choose is safe for use, call the ammunition manufacturer and ask if the product meets SAAMI guidelines before using it in you firearm. Some +P ammunition meets these guidelines, +P+ normally does not. This ammunition may generate a higher pressure over the standard loadings, and may shorten the component life of your firearm."
     
    #20 bentbiker, Mar 9, 2013
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2013